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To: stockman_scott who wrote (26837)	9/1/2003 1:49:09 AM
From: lurqer	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 89467

<Font size=5> "We have met the enemy... and he is us" <Font size=3> Recently we’ve been subjected to several members of the military, civilian DOD and the CPA all mouthing the same party line: “We don’t need more “boots on the ground”, we need better intelligence”. For example "It's not a question of more troops. It's a question of being effective with our intelligence, getting more Iraqis to help us," Mr. Bremer said on ABC Television. On CNN, he said: "We need better intelligence, and we are seeking better intelligence." from globeandmail.com What’s not said is where we’re going to get this intelligence. Several days ago that became more obvious – the Mukhabarat. "There is an obvious evolution in American thinking. First the police are reconstituted, then the army. It is logical that intelligence officials from the regime would also be recruited." from publicbroadcasting.net Increasingly we’re seeing what the Iraqization of the occupation really means: regime reconstitution. From the last link While not disclosing how they check the operatives, U.S. officials said they believed some agents remained "fairly untainted" by Hussein's government. But they said they recognized the potential pitfalls in relying on an instrument loathed by most Iraqis and renowned across the Arab world for its casual use of torture, fear, intimidation, rape and imprisonment. and from the first link The Iraqis said the former agents of the secret police and intelligence services would work with U.S. intelligence agents inside Mr. Hussein's old presidential palace, where the U.S.-led coalition has its headquarters. So I disagree with US seeks a tamer version of Saddam. from smh.com.au We don’t need a tamer Saddam, we’re it. JMO lurqer

To: stockman_scott who wrote (26837)	9/1/2003 4:34:17 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

Question W: Questions that George Bush should be forced to answer: questionw.com Now that you have liberated Iraq, will you support their desire for a fundamentalist government? Why did the lucrative school testing contracts, which are the main part funded from the "no child left behind" bill, get passed along to your cronies? Can you bring us up to date on the Enron investigation? Can you bring us up to date on the Halliburton investigation? Can you bring us up to date on the Harken investigation? Recently, a Fox News reporter was fired for refusing to report a lie. She sued for wrongful termination, but on appeal, the courts held that the United States has no law that requires news to be true. Do you support this opinion? Your father has had several skin lesions removed from his face. Why do you oppose environmental legislation that would reduce skin cancer rates? Do you believe that certain parts of the Constitution are outdated? How many convicted felons are currently serving in your administration? In your State of the Union speech, you stated that the presence of "25,000 liters of anthrax ... 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin ... materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent ... upwards of 30,000 munitions capable of delivering chemical agents" posed an imminent threat to this nation. Where are theWMD? How did you get your position in the TANG considering your extremely low test score? And to follow-up, how did you get an Honorable Discharge when you failed to complete your service? Who short sold United and American right before 9-11? After Andrew Card notified you on 9-11 that America was under attack, why did you spend almost 20 minutes reading a story about a pet goat? How do you plan to balance the social services spending in Iraq vs. in the United States? Your first round of tax cuts resulted in a loss of over 2 million jobs. You promise your next tax cut will create 1 million new jobs. Can you do the math? Three times, you have stated that it would be easier if you were a dictator. Why do you think that's funny? What possessed you to use the 9/11 national tragedy as a punchline in your 'Trifecta' joke? And to follow up, why did your partisan republican audiences laugh with you? Why did you ask the president of Brazil if there are any blacks there? Why did your administration lobby Tom Daschle to drop the investigation of 9-11? Why haven't you let the public see all of the 800-page 9-11 investigation report? Are you actually afraid of Helen Thomas? When Florida was called for Gore, why did you insist that results were going to change? How do you explain the worldwide animosity America now faces? Would you agree that the sentiment is more anti-Bush than anti-America? Why didn't you take steps to protect the hospitals, museums and nuclear power plants in Iraq? Where is Saddam Hussein? Where is Osama bin Laden? Why didn't you remove any doubt about your presidency by demanding a full recount of the Florida vote? If universal healthcare is important for Iraq, why not here? Will you take the tests that you require schoolchildren to pass? Why did Bush tell the FBI to back off the bin laden family? You know that your National Security Advisor lied about the possibility of commercial aircraft being used as weapons. Why didn't you fire her? How many federal employees were fired following the catastrophic intelligence failures on 9/11? What will you do to make sure elections are properly audited in the next election? hy did you and Secretary of State Colin Powell cite a forged document as evidence of Iraq's alleged nuclear program? Can you explain why did NORAD deviated from Standard Operating Procedure on the morning of 9-11, failing to scramble jets? If not, can you tell us the status of that investigation? Why did your spokesman deny that you were drafting a second Domestic Security Enhancement bill (Patriot Act II)? With Homeland Security initiatives like First Responders being under-funded, how do you reason that creating more foreign enemies is making us any safer? Can you explain why $50 million allocated to investigate the Columbia shuttle disaster, only $14 million was allocated to investigate 9-11? Why has your Justice Department consistently refused to supply information to Congress on how the USA PATRIOT Act is being implemented, especially in light of the fact that passage of the act was conditional upon adequate oversight by Congress? Why are you so obsessed with secrecy? Do you have something to hide? Why did you renege on your campaign promise to support the Kyoto Treaty on global warming? Why did you fail to fund your "Leave No Child Behind" initiative? Where were you, Mr. Bush, between 1972 and1973 when you were supposed to be in the national guard? How do you justify the budget cuts for veterans benefits at precisely the time you are ramping up the military for permanent war? Is it true that you are recruiting soldiers in Mexico? Why did you and others in the White House start taking Cipro right after 9/11? What did you know that the rest of the American people didn't? Would your administration be more concerned with finding the anthrax killer if republican senators and the Washington Times had been targeted? Do you think anyone buys your 'cowboy' act? Isn't your 'ranch' a cynical campaign prop? It has been reported that you said, "who cares what you think?" to a man that questioned your policies in Philadelphia. Is this 'compassionate conservatism' or simple contempt? Mr. Bush*, do you still "not give a damn" where Osama Bin Laden is? When was the last time you gave a speech before an audience that was not hand-picked? Do you believe that dissent is unpatriotic? Why are people who would protest your appearances rounded up and arrested before the events, held without charges, and then released? In 1989, you reportedly said that you are a media creation. Has anything changed?