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To: JohnM who wrote (6483)9/1/2003 4:09:34 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793609
 
Had you typed Bush rather than Clinton in that sentence it would have been both more timely and more accurate.


I thought that would be your reaction. I was referring to Clinton's amazing ability to get himself out of scrapes. Blair is even better at it. Bush has not had the same experience. Of course, I understand that you have always operated with a "Bush the moron and bumbler" syndrome.



To: JohnM who wrote (6483)9/1/2003 4:40:42 PM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 793609
 
The Dems are getting on Arnold for using the word "Fag" in an interview in '77. But look at this editorial from Cruz's Mexican organization in June of this year.

La Voz de Aztlan Editorial

Los Angeles, Alta California
June 26, 2003
US Supreme Court's decision on "sodomy" will worsen the AIDS epidemic

.... The increase of AIDS through the legitimization of "sodomy" will greatly benefit the Jewish dominated biological research laboratories. They are already receiving billions of dollars in research grants from the federal government. Many believe that the AIDS virus was actually engineered in one of these laboratories. It is possible that they already have the cure but are waiting to market the cure when AIDS reaches its peak. La Voz de Aztlan believes that some clandestine Jewish laboratories are inventing and spreading diseases in order to profit by marketing their cures. An example of this is "diabetes" that has reached sudden epidemic proportions in the Mexican-American community and "autism" among children. There is already a multi-billion dollar market in questionable diabetic pharmaceuticals such as "Glucophage". Also, there have been extensive reports in the alternative media of numerous high altitude airplanes over major cities in the USA "spraying" unknown substances into the atmosphere. The reports call the "spray patterns" contrails and the reports are saying that these sprayed substances are causing certain illnesses among the populations........
REST AT: aztlan.net

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I have mentioned before that the Latin population is very Socially Conservative and anti-semitic.



To: JohnM who wrote (6483)9/1/2003 10:59:43 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793609
 
I came across this comment while reading a discussion of old line liberals from the New Deal. Could not resist posting it.

"One of the best of the old liberals, Alexander Bickel, died far too young (he was in his early 50s). He was a Yale law professor, supporter of RFK, contributor to The New Republic, and a friend of Anthony Lewis. Here is a quote from his last book "The Morality of Consent" (1975):

"'The lesson of the great decisions of the Supreme Court and the lesson of contemporary history have been the same for at least a generation: discrimination on the basis of race is illegal, immoral, unconstitutional, inherently wrong, and destructive of democratic society. Now this is to be unlearned and we are told that this is not a matter of fundamental principle but only a matter of whose ox is gored. Those for whom racial equality was demanded are to be more equal than others. Having found support in the Constitution for equality, they now claim support for inequality under the same Constitution.'"
nationalreview.com



To: JohnM who wrote (6483)9/1/2003 11:30:24 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793609
 
<iIt may be time to gear up to strike. The media is starting to feature Dean over Bush already.
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Launch the Dean Counterattack
The Bushies must squelch this left-wing uprising.
Larry Kudlow - National Review

A shocking Zogby poll this week had Vermont Gov. Howard Dean at a giant 21 point lead over former New Hampshire frontrunner Sen. John Kerry. That's more than two-to-one with a 38 percent to 17 percent margin. Dean is the clear frontrunner and may well lead the Democrats next year. So, this is a wake-up call for the Bushies. It's time for all the president's men to aggressively defend Bush's policies and attack Dean's extreme left-liberal positions.
So far, Dean has been relying on a relatively narrow base of voter support, largely Bush-hating, anti-war liberals who make up about half of the Democratic party and a third of the electorate. But Dean is well-funded and he has quickly become the darling of the liberal media.

Following his successful rally in New York's Bryant Park this week, the New York Times saw fit to run a huge frontpage story with a color picture of the candidate. Meanwhile, a story on Bush's excellent speech at the VFW convention, where he emphasized a stay-the-course commitment in Iraq, was placed below the Dean story with a much smaller headline.

In the long Times piece on Dean you had to go 23 paragraphs deep to find a statement on the candidate's basic policy positions: universal health insurance, opposition to the Iraq war, balanced budgets, tax-cut repeal, affirmative action, and gay rights. This is not a winning combination, as numerous moderate Democrats point out. Still, if Dean's the one, administration spokespeople should start underscoring the extremism that defines his campaign.

For example, Dean's universal health-care insurance is Hillarycare. It's the same government-paid health insurance that's been a disaster in Western Europe and Canada. And it's the same socialist proposal that was defeated handily in a Democratic Congress ten years ago.

True patient power requires health-insurance choice and market competition along with tax reform. It will be incumbent on the administration to state this clearly. That means coming out in favor of the House bill on Medicare and prescription drugs and strongly opposing the all-government-all-the-time Ted Kennedy version in the Senate. Linking Dean to Sen. Kennedy makes sense ? not only on health care but also on taxes and the war. The Vermont liberal is very much in Kennedy's far-out orbit.

On the economy, a strong recovery is building momentum. But the president's economic advisors are not aggressive enough in touting the rebound. Gross domestic product grew a surprising 3.1 percent in the second quarter, with hefty consumer and business spending increases. Many economists now expect 4 to 5 percent economic growth between now and next year's election. Yet Bush advisors seem reluctant to tout the obvious turnaround in both the economy and the rip-roaring stock market. Because of their reticence, media headlines continue to sow economic doubt.

Newspapers, meanwhile, exclaim that new budget-deficit estimates are another chink in the Bush re-election armor. The headline "Leap in Deficits Instead of Fall Is Seen for U.S." was on the very same Times front page that featured Dean's giant color photo. But the new Congressional Budget Office estimates show a huge drop in projected deficits beginning in 2005 and extending for the next eight years. By 2010 the deficit is projected to be less than 2 percent of GDP. By 2013 the CBO estimates a $211 billion surplus.

At roughly 4 percent of GDP currently, the U.S. budget gap is only slightly larger that the fiscal red ink posted by France and Germany. Of course, they didn?t fight a war.

Importantly, the CBO underscores the point that slumping economic growth is the largest source of the problem, and recovering growth is the largest source of the solution. The Bush strategy of across-the-board tax cuts ? which are responsible for only one-fifth of the temporary deficit bulge ? were the correct economic-growth solution for fiscal imbalance and the recession cycle.

Yet if Dean's high-tax policies were actually put in place they would wreck the recovery and doom the stock market rise. His liberal domestic-policy proposals would also have grave consequences, inflating the size of government to Ted Kennedyesque proportions.

As for foreign policy, Dean would destroy American credibility for at least the next fifty years, giving global terrorists a green light to threaten our safety and security. Culturally Dean would destroy the traditional American family and the social values that keep our society intact.

Howard Dean's left-wing uprising should be squelched before it gains any currency in the public mind. Standing above the fray is no way to do it. Neither are caustic put downs. The Bushies must dig in now. They've got to pull out some serious policy analysis and some long knives, before this Dean thing gets out of hand.

Mr. Kudlow is CEO of Kudlow & Co.



To: JohnM who wrote (6483)9/2/2003 2:40:48 AM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793609
 
We discussed this letter when it came out, and you wondered about it's effect. Here is some further info on it.

Breaking the Code
From the August 25, 2003 Dallas Morning News: The Department of Education's Office of Civil Rights tries to bring an end to campus speech codes created in its name.
by Terry Eastland
09/02/2003 12:00:00 AM

IN A JULY LETTER to colleges and universities across the country, Gerald Reynolds, head of the Education Department's Office for Civil Rights, addressed "a subject," as he put it, "of central importance to our government, our heritage of freedom and our way of life: the First Amendment." Reynolds' office doesn't have the authority to bring lawsuits to enforce the First Amendment. What, you might wonder, possessed him to write a letter about it?

The answer begins with the fact that hundreds of colleges and universities have policies restricting speech that the First Amendment protects. Called "speech codes" when initiated in the 1980s--ironically by a generation of professors who in their youth supported the free speech movement of the 1960s--the policies have taken on new guises. Often, they are expressed in vague rules against harassment and target speech deemed to offend a person or group.

Shippensburg University of Pennsylvania, for example, loosely defines harassment as "unsolicited, unwanted conduct which annoys, threatens or alarms a person or group." The school says it will protect only speech that doesn't "provoke, harass, demean, intimidate or harm another."

Even when not enforced, as often appears to be the case, the restrictive policies promote an educational environment that discourages intellectual exchange. The ever vigilant Foundation for Individual Rights in Education reports the attempt by students at Ithaca College last spring to get campus police to stop a speech sponsored by College Republicans (the speaker was Bay Buchanan, her topic "the failures of feminism") and have it declared a "bias-related incident" punishable under school rules. The attempt to censor failed, and the event was held. But the school's "Bias-Related Incidents Committee" now is exploring policies that could prohibit similar speeches in the future.

Now, what particularly interests Reynolds is that some schools defend their speech policies by saying they are required by the government--specifically, the Office for Civil Rights. Because we receive federal funds, they say, we must abide by the anti-discrimination regulations that the office administers. Yet to comply with those rules, we must regulate the content of such speech as might be deemed "offensive." That is, to protect civil rights we must curtail civil liberties. In sum, the government makes us do what we do.

Were the pertinent laws and regulations not on the books, the schools making that argument no doubt would keep the censorship policies they already have. After all, they believe in them.

In his letter, Reynolds concedes none of their disingenuous argument. "I want to assure you in the clearest possible terms," he writes, "that [the Office for Civil Rights'] regulations are not intended to restrict the exercise of any expressive activities protected" under the Constitution. Indeed, the laws on which those regulations are based "are intended to protect students from invidious discrimination, not to regulate the content of speech."

Reynolds specifically addresses harassment, which under the law can include "verbal or physical conduct." Some schools, he reports, have interpreted the office's prohibition of harassment as encompassing "all offensive speech regarding sex, disability [or] race." Yet mere words, symbols or thoughts "that some person finds offensive" aren't enough to establish harassment. There must be more. Indeed, the conduct must be so "severe, persistent or pervasive" as to limit a student's educational opportunity.

The First Amendment binds the states and, therefore, state institutions of higher education. The Reynolds letter underscores the vulnerability of speech-restricting state schools to lawsuits brought by students (or faculty members) claiming First Amendment violations.

At the same time, the letter sends an important message to private schools receiving federal funds (as most do). The First Amendment doesn't apply to those schools. Yet, as Reynolds explains, that doesn't mean they have the Office for Civil Rights' permission to limit speech in ways more restrictive than the First Amendment allows. A private school embarking on such a project, he writes, "does so on its own accord."

The Reynolds letter ought to stimulate a rethinking in higher education about its essential purposes and how they should be pursued. As Reynolds said in an interview, the key question here is "whether the kind of intellectual engagement that every self-respecting university says it wants to promote is compatible with restrictions on speech" that the Constitution protects.

weeklystandard.com



To: JohnM who wrote (6483)9/2/2003 8:05:26 AM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 793609
 
Are the liberals getting ahead of the conservatives in using the Internet?

Liberals find many ways to spread word
By James G. Lakely - Washington Times
Published September 2, 2003

Left-wing activists, energized by what they see as an incompetent and ultraconservative Bush administration, have taken their fight to the Internet, the best-seller lists and pop culture, mirroring the rise of conservative media and talk radio during the Clinton years.
The Web site Moveon.org, which started modestly in 1998 to oppose the impeachment of President Clinton, is now a leading light in cyberspace for anti-Bush activists.
The Web site claims to have 3 million members across the country and has raised hundreds of thousands of dollars to pay for anti-Bush ads in the largest U.S. newspapers.
Former Vice President Al Gore asked the group to sponsor an anti-Bush speech he delivered at New York University on Aug. 7 in which he accused Mr. Bush of leading the nation to war under "false impressions." Moveon.org followed that up by paying $102,000 to run a full-page ad in The New York Times last week reprinting parts of Mr. Gore's speech.
Sources involved with Moveon.org said the group recently launched a $1 million campaign to accuse the Bush administration of "trying to disenfranchise minority voters" in Texas through a Republican plan to redraw congressional districts.
"It's refreshing that Democrats are asking for accountability of this president," said Tony Welch, spokesman for the Democratic National Committee. "The media is more afraid to do what its job is, which is to ask questions. If they do that for Republicans and Democrats, then we're fine."
Aside from helping mobilize the Democratic Party, liberal outrage aimed at President Bush has also become big business.
Liberal humorist Al Franken's book "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right" holds the No. 1 nonfiction spot on the New York Times best-sellers list and also tops sales at Amazon.com.
Leftist activist Michael Moore's documentary "Bowling for Columbine," a film that excoriates conservatives and the "gun culture," won an Academy Award, and Mr. Moore's book "Stupid White Men" was the top-selling nonfiction book of 2002.
The memoir "Living History" by Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, New York Democrat, has been hailed as the definitive defense of the Clinton presidency. It was a runaway best seller and continues to linger in the New York Times' top-five list.
Country music artists the Dixie Chicks made headlines in the spring for saying while onstage overseas that they were ashamed to be from the same state as Mr. Bush. The angry backlash by Bush supporters at home was immediate and loud but the flap ultimately didn't hurt the group's career.
The Dixie Chicks recently wrapped up the top-grossing North American tour of the year with $61 million in ticket sales.
Outspoken Bush critic Janeane Garofalo has enjoyed a successful career as an actress and comedian. She and Mr. Franken both sat in on the left side of CNN's political shout-fest "Crossfire," a sign that sharp-tongued opposition to the president has attracted the attention of the mainstream news media.
On a single episode of "Crossfire" last week, Miss Garofalo held the president "responsible" for the bombing of the U.N. compound in Iraq, claimed he perpetuated a "lie that brought us into war in Iraq," called the Bush administration "radically corrupt," and likened the USA Patriot Act ? passed by an overwhelming bipartisan majority in Congress to fight terrorism ? "a conspiracy of the 43rd Reich."
As successful as the left has been with books and the Internet, Mr. Welch said it pales in comparison to the rise of conservative talk radio, which was the engine that drove criticism of President Clinton during his two terms.
"I think there is real movement on the Democratic side," Mr. Welch said. "But frankly I don't think we're close to where we were in the 1990s when the legions of far-right folks put Clinton and his family under attack every single day.
"We can't match that yet. It's not at the same level," Mr. Welch said.
But some see signs that it might be getting close.
The Internet is awash in Web sites dedicated to mocking President Bush. Some sites focus on substantive discussions of what Mr. Bush's ideological opposites consider wrongheaded policies. Others cast him as a danger to society, a man obsessed with power who is violating the Constitution.
One site, fearbush.com, features "peace rally" posters that dress Mr. Bush in a Nazi uniform, complete with Adolf Hitler's distinctive mustache. Bushbodycount.com has assembled a list of people it says the Bush family has killed to increase its fortune.
While many of these corners of the Internet are obscure and their claims extreme, others have connections to mainstream media. Counterpunch.com, a popular liberal Web site run by syndicated columnist Alexander Cockburn, has published columns that compare Mr. Bush to Hitler, conceding only that "Bush is simply not the orator that Hitler was."
Political strategist Brian Lunde, who aligns himself with the centrist Democratic Leadership Council, said such sentiments have been growing in the party's grass roots since the contested 2000 presidential election.
"Anger is the primary motivation right now on the left," Mr. Lunde said, citing that passion is a factor in the successful campaign of former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, who has parlayed an antiwar message to rise from obscurity to front-runner status for his party's presidential nomination.
Mr. Dean has also used the Internet to raise at least $10 million for his campaign, and the money keeps rolling in.
Democrats "are lurching to the left, where the emotion is," Mr. Lunde said. "But turning up the volume doesn't make their message more persuasive to independent voters."
Jonathan Chait, a senior editor at the New Republic, said that liberals who express nothing but hatred for the president are destroying their credibility as legitimate critics because they are abandoning principle.
"I certainly think there's a way that hatred of Bush can be distorting in that you often see people who reflexively oppose everything that Bush is for," said Mr. Chait, who is developing an article on "Bush hatred" for the next edition of his magazine. "Anti-Bushism is leading Democrats in a direction that they'd never been to before."
For instance, liberals now say that "the war in Iraq can never be legitimate" because it did not have the explicit authority of the United Nations Security Council, Mr. Chait said.
"But that was a foreign concept to most liberals three or four years ago," he added, explaining that liberals didn't object when Mr. Clinton bombed Yugoslavia over ethnic cleansing in Kosovo without first clearing it with the United Nations.
"Liberals are starting to imagine that they believed something all along when they really only believe it because it's the opposite of what Bush believes," he said.

dynamic.washtimes.com



To: JohnM who wrote (6483)9/2/2003 8:15:13 AM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 793609
 
"The New Republic" has an online debate going between Judis and Kaplan on the subject of "Iraq, what next? Here is part four, by Kaplan. The rest can be read at the site.

Lawrence F. Kaplan
08.31.03, 1:00 p.m.

John,

In our last exchange, I noted that our disagreement pits two liberal ideals against one another. The tension between the two seems to manifest itself every time America goes to war, with some arguing that we have no right to violate the sovereignty of a Yugoslavia or an Iraq, while others argue that to do otherwise would amount to a betrayal of liberalism. Your latest note puts you firmly in the anti-imperialist camp. For my part, I can think of far greater sins on the world scene than imperialism--which, in any case, I do not think the Bush team is guilty of practicing in Iraq.

As for the Arab side of the equation, I do not doubt that the memory of imperialism still looms large in the Arab imagination--though polls of Iraqis show that majorities want the United States to stay rather than leave. But I have seen no evidence whatsoever that America has "healed the division between secular and Islamic nationalism." I have not seen it heal in the Arab world at large, where, from Egypt to Algeria, the two creeds collide on a regular basis. Nor have I seen it in Iraq, where the two creeds clash on a daily basis. As to the history and substance of American imperialism, I disagree with your idiosyncratic reading of both. You cite our conquest of the Philippines as a useful precedent. But the avowed purpose of that war, and indeed that era in U.S. foreign policy, was imperialistic, and no one is denying the fact that the United States had an imperial past. The question is whether it still does, and whether Iraq proves the point.

You clearly believe the answer is yes and, accordingly, you lump America in with the Britain, France, and Germany as a power that colonized the Middle East in the early twentieth century so it could "dominate the growing oil economy." But the United States did not "move decisively into the region," as you put it, until the British and the French pulled out in the aftermath of World War II. Since then, it has wielded its power in the Middle East not through imperial domination (recall Eisenhower's condemnation of the Suez Operation, in which Washington abandoned France and Britain precisely because of their imperial designs), but rather through the relatively straightforward political and economic levers that the United States possesses as a superpower. The need to recruit Arab states to the anti-Soviet cause and later to make peace with Israel and still later to contain Iraq--and the inducements and blandishments that America offered in return--created a dynamic very different from the one you describe. So different that when it comes to a country like Saudi Arabia, it's no longer clear whether Riyadh is Washington's client or the other way around. You say that trying to understand this dynamic absent an understanding of our imperial past is like trying to understand the American South of the 1880s without reference to the civil war. But viewing U.S.-Arab relations exclusively through the prism of imperialism is the equivalent of understanding the American South of the 1880s by reference to the Revolutionary War.

If it is the motives behind America's conduct in the Middle East that you're after, I would take a much closer look at recent history. You contend the Bush team's "actions have belied its words" about Iraq not being a war of imperial conquest. As proof that this is precisely what it was, you cite among other things the fact that America "invaded and then occupied Iraq, and it continues to occupy it even after having failed to find any weapons of mass destruction ... it has retained firm political control over the country ... it has killed off, imprisoned or chased away the country's secondary or tertiary leadership, which might have assumed control of the country after Saddam had been ousted." Is rebuilding a country that we bombed, stepping into a vacuum that we created, and imprisoning the leaders of a murderous regime really evidence of imperialism? Or is it merely evidence of being responsible? From Germany and Japan through Bosnia and Kosovo, the United States boasts a long and admirable history of post-war "nation-building." Far from being worried that the Bush administration would uphold this tradition, I feared that that the war's architects would simply abandon Iraq in the war's aftermath--which, before the country began to come apart at the seams, is exactly what they were poised to do. Again, I think many of the problems of the occupation derive precisely from the Bush team's insistence that America should not behave as an imperial power, rather than vice-versa.

As for the motives behind the war, you scoff at the notion that the invasion might have been about "eliminating Saddam's tyranny and installing a Western-style democracy in its place," or about something other than "undermining OPEC." You adduce evidence for this assertion in the fact "in reporting on the administration's foreign policy, I have yet to encounter" administration officials "obsessed with eliminating Saddam's tyranny." We must be talking to very different administration officials. The war's architects were "obsessed with eliminating Saddam's tyranny" long before September 11, and, if I recall correctly, that is one of the charges that war critics liked to level against them. It happens to be true. The "neoconservatives" whose history we both know very well have been lobbying for over a decade to overthrow Saddam, and for reasons that have much more to do with the moral abdication of the first Bush administration than with illusory obsessions about oil and geopolitical advantage. Your doubts about the wisdom of democratizing an ethnically divided Iraq, your advice that we encourage Iraq's "neighbors" (presumably including Saudi Arabia and Iran) to have a greater say in the country's future, and your calculation that the dangers of imperialism outweigh the benefits of political freedom in Iraq--all these things leave the impression that you, rather than the Bush team, are the one with little use for a democratic Iraq.

Which brings me back to the source of our disagreement. I do not think the cause of anti-imperialism trumps the cause of democracy and human rights--in Iraq or anywhere else. By the end of the 1990's, no less an upholder of the principle of sovereignty than the Secretary General of the United Nations was applauding an evolving norm in favor of intervention to halt the depredations of brutal regimes--which is what the Clinton team ended up doing in Yugoslavia. Complaints about that war prompted liberal writer David Rieff to denounce "the utopian nihilism of a left that would prefer to see genocide in Bosnia and the mass deportation of the Kosovars rather than strengthen, however marginally, the hegemony of the United States." I do not believe that you belong to this group. But I do think that you should carefully consider the question of who else besides the United States can be relied on to enforce universal norms, and whether that aim may occasionally justify impinging on the sovereignty of others. The alternative to U.S. leadership, it seems to me, is a chaotic, Hobbesian world in which regimes like Saddam's go unchecked. If being the lynchpin of a decent world order creates the mistaken impression of an imperial America, that is indeed unfortunate. But it hardly justifies turning a blind eye to inhumanity.

Lawrence
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