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To: Bilow who wrote (113636)	9/1/2003 8:12:09 PM
From: Sig	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

<<<t's stupid to let the Americans kill you in a standup battle when they're going to win no matter what, and you can instead kill far more of them by becoming a guerilla force. It's a fact of military history that there are very few battles where a side that knows that it will lose puts up much of a fight. There are so few battles of this nature, where there is true martyrdom / heroic sacrifice / whatever you want to call it, that the battles where this extreme bravery was displayed are known to all, and are still discussed even halfway across the globe and thousands of years later. The vast majority of the time, the side that knows it will be beaten does its best to save itself. In most battles, neither side knows (for sure) that it is doomed, and when the losers do figure it out, it is too late >>> This is weak, Carl, a very weak argument.(g) Soldiers with no knowledge outside their own area,do not know whether a war is being won or lost, except thru trusted people like Babbling Bob from Baghdad. Country leaders do not know, as their military commanders always have a plan to retreat, regroup after a lost battle and then make a brilliant play to win the next. Who could tell which side was winning the battle of Stalingrad.? And did a defeat mean the entire war was lost? You are correct in saying when the loser figures it out its usually too late The US knew Saddam was a loser the day that his buddies in the UN failed to stop the US from enforcing their Resolutions, but Saddam did not think so Now tell us whether we will win the war for the hearts and minds of the Iraqis. Identify the loser so he can retreat and fight as a guerilla band. Can we even identify the final winner after another year has passed? Sig