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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (451677)	9/2/2003 2:31:44 PM
From: JakeStraw	Respond to of 769670

>>I wish they were higher. Gee doesn't that contradict all you've been posting about help for the poor and all the other gov't handouts that you advocate?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (451677)	9/2/2003 2:32:04 PM
From: Bald Eagle	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

RE:We have to learn to consume. Dont you mean conserve? :-)

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (451677)	9/2/2003 2:33:23 PM
From: Bald Eagle	Respond to of 769670

RE: I,for one, welcome high gas prices. I wish they were higher. I think you need to move to Europe :-)

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (451677)	9/2/2003 2:40:39 PM
From: jlallen	Respond to of 769670

Nice up in the market today, eh Kenny???

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (451677)	9/2/2003 2:42:58 PM
From: jlallen	Respond to of 769670

Very interesting poll numbers from CBS (8/30)..... Bush's job approval holding steady at 55% BUT his disapproval numbers edged downward...from 37% to 35%....

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (451677)	9/2/2003 2:44:48 PM
From: Bill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Let's see... Capital Gains Tax CDL license Tax Cigarette Tax Corporate Income Tax Court Fines (indirect taxes) Dog License Tax Federal Income Tax Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA) Fishing License Tax Food License Tax Fuel permit tax Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon) Hunting License Tax Inheritance Tax Interest expense (tax on the money) Inventory tax IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax) IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax) Liquor Tax Local Income Tax Luxury Taxes Marriage License Tax Medicare Tax Property Tax Real Estate Tax Septic Permit Tax Service Charge Taxes Social Security Tax Road Usage Taxes (Truckers) Sales Taxes Recreational Vehicle Tax Road Toll Booth Taxes School Tax State Income Tax State Unemployment Tax (SUTA) Telephone federal excise tax Telephone federal universal service fee tax Telephone federal, state and local surcharge taxes Telephone minimum usage surcharge tax Telephone recurring and non-recurring charges tax Telephone state and local tax Telephone usage charge tax Toll Bridge Taxes Toll Tunnel Taxes Traffic Fines (indirect taxation) Trailer registration tax Utility Taxes Vehicle License Registration Tax Vehicle Sales Tax Watercraft registration Tax Well Permit Tax Workers Compensation Tax FACT: Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago and our nation was the most prosperous in the world, had absolutely no national debt, and had the largest middle class in the world. What the hell happened?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (451677)	9/2/2003 4:27:50 PM
From: Hope Praytochange	Respond to of 769670

nytimes.com September 2, 2003 North Korea Now Says It Will Continue Nuclear Talks By JOSEPH KAHN EIJING, Sept. 2 — North Korea reversed itself today and pledged to continue negotiating on its nuclear program, while Chinese officials asserted that the bigger obstacle to a diplomatic solution was American reluctance to begin bargaining in earnest. The official North Korean news agency, KCNA, issued a statement this afternoon saying that the government was still committed to negotiations on its nuclear program. That announcement came just days after North Korea issued a stream of invective against the United States characterizing the recent multinational talks in Beijing as useless and saying Pyongyang was "no longer interested" in a new round of dialogue. "The D.P.R.K.'s fixed will to peacefully settle the nuclear issue between the D.P.R.K. and the U.S. through dialogue remains unchanged," the news agency said in dispatch today, using the initials of the country's official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Pyongyang's position, if it holds, would appear to confirm China's earlier statement that all parties that participated in the last round — the United States, North Korea, Japan, South Korea and Russia as well as China — were ready to continue negotiations within two months. But the switch comes as China's top diplomats have grown increasingly concerned that the United States does not have a negotiating strategy beyond using multilateral talks to put pressure on Pyongyang, analysts who have spoken to Chinese officials about the issue said today. In contrast, the analysts said, China believes that North Korea is prepared to trade away its nuclear program for the right mix of security and economic incentives. China's vice foreign minister and the host of last week's talks, Wang Yi, told reporters in Manila on Monday that he considered the United States the "main obstacle" to settling the nuclear issue peacefully. He did not elaborate. But in a regularly scheduled briefing today, China's Foreign Ministry spokesman, Kong Quan, echoed the point. "How the U.S. is threatening the D.P.R.K., this needs to be further discussed in the next round of talks," Mr. Kong said. He said new talks should focus on addressing what he called America's "negative policy" toward North Korea. The statements are significant because China has played a crucial role in bringing parties together for talks. The Bush administration would also need at least tacit backing from China, North Korea's largest aid donor and trading partner, to impose sanctions if Pyongyang began testing and deploying nuclear weapons. People who have been briefed on China's position say that officials here feel negotiations will ultimately collapse unless the Bush administration adopts a more nuanced bargaining strategy that provides a road map for dismantling North Korea's nuclear facilities while simultaneously addressing the country's security concerns. "There is a widespread sense that the U.S. is the problem," said Chu Shulong, a foreign affairs expert at Tsinghua University. "China wants everyone to be prepared to take steps at the same time, and doesn't understand why this is not reasonable." Mr. Chu was a participant in the Northeast Asia Cooperation Dialogue, a high-level seminar with diplomats from the United States, China, North Korea and other nations, which was held this week in Qingdao, China. At last week's negotiations, North Korea proposed a phased program in which it offered to dismantle its nuclear facilities and submit to inspections, but only after as the United States signed a nonaggression treaty. The United States rejected that blueprint, but offered little in return, maintaining that North Korea must completely and verifiably stop producing atomic weapons before discussions begin on any benefits it may receive for doing so. American officials have said that they will not offer up-front benefits to North Korea because that amounts to succumbing to blackmail. North Korea acknowledged abrogating a 1994 pact with the United States and resuming nuclear weapons development last year, prompting the latest crisis. Still, some outside experts argue that the Bush administration cannot maintain a no-bargaining position indefinitely if the negotiations are to progress beyond recitations of official positions. "The first round just brought out the positions of both sides," said Susan Shirk, a former State Department official in the Clinton administration, who also attended the diplomatic seminar in Qingdao. "But if you want to solve the problem, there has to be a spirit of compromise on all sides."