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To: KyrosL who wrote (6657)	9/3/2003 6:41:23 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793622

Lots of "Wampum" available from the Indians. Makes you wonder just how corrupt tribal gaming is. California Insider A Weblog by Sacramento Bee Columnist Daniel Weintraub September 02, 2003 More big Indian money for Cruz The Indian money for Cruz keeps piling up. He's collected or has pledges for $2.8 million so far, according to this blurb from the Bee, a figure that includes a $1.5 million contribution and pledge for a $500,000 get-out-the-vote drive from the Viejas Band. This is a high-risk move. In one sense Cruz has little choice because he won't get this much money anywhere else. But if Arnold is successful in painting the Indians and their gaming operations as evil special interests, they could become a very large weight around Cruz's neck. I haven't seen polling on the Indians' image. I am thinking that on the surface Californians favor them -- hey, let them do what they can to get on their economic feet. But I also think a well crafted campaign about traffic, water use, and values, with a Las Vegas connection thrown in, could persuade voters that the Indian gaming operations are not the same as the Native Americans who still have a warm spot in our hearts. Game over' Arnold is putting out new ad, a quick 15-second spot focused on special interest politics. It features a nifty line he used Monday in Sacramento and is sure to catch the viewers' attention: "Here's how it works: money comes in, favors go out. The people lose. We need to send a message: game over." Can't get much clearer than that. Maybe he will buy some time to air it during Wednesday's debate. sacbee.com

To: KyrosL who wrote (6657)	9/3/2003 6:50:52 AM
From: unclewest	Respond to of 793622

You certainly are selective in quoting statistics, taking a small slice of time and ignoring the record over all the Clinton years Clinton's economy was built with joker cards...In the end, a small puff of wind blew it down. He didn't even get to leave town before the cards crashed down. Clinton's great economic gift to America was the dismantling of our armed forces leaving us extremely vulnerable. Subtract the 1.5 trillion dollars and 3,000 lives that 9/11 cost us and then lecture me about all the good Bill Clinton accomplished.

To: KyrosL who wrote (6657)	9/3/2003 6:10:16 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 793622

Can you name another presidency where a broad stock market index rose by five times? Well, Coolidge only had four years, but the Dow rose from 95 to 300 during his presidency. Of course, later generations did not remember that boom as an unmixed blessing -g- usfca.edu In fact, almost any economic numbers you can site during the Clinton years show dramatic improvement On 9/11/2001, Clinton's entire Presidency became a prologue, and it doesn't show particularly well in that light.