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To: Eashoa' M'sheekha who wrote (113865)	9/4/2003 10:25:53 AM
From: carranza2	Respond to of 281500

You keep this revisionist bullshit up C2... Did you read James Rubin's article in the latest Foreign Affairs? This is by the way the purpose of the thread. Did you see the statements by the French Ambassador recently? Did you see Richard Holbrooke on Charlie Rose last night? I don't revise. I look at the facts. Fact--the French urged us to go forward without a second resolution since they believed 1441 was sufficient to allow the use of force. Rubin, a former Assistant Secretary of State under Clinton and no friend of Bush, said so in his recent article in Foreign Affairs after presumably checking with his sources. More importantly, the French Ambassador recently corroborated Rubin's article. The idea at the time was to preclude a showdown at the UN. Yes, the French, mind you, urged us to attack without a second resolution because in their view it was unnecessary. The French apparently didn't care that attacking without a second resolution would have been domestically fatal to Blair. In any event, diplomacy got flummoxed, we went forward with the attempt to get the second resolution but backed off when it appeared that it wouldn't pass. Before the diplomacy went haywire, it is a fact that the thinking among the global community of policy-makers who mattered was that no second resolution was necessary. If the French and other luminaries such as Richard Holbrooke, former Ambassador to the UN under Clinton, thought at the time that a second resolution was unnecessary, why do you classify me as a revisionist? It's mainstream thinking. It would help if you studied, read, and reflected instead of simply venting your spleen. PS: I hate to see the recent spate of insubstantial posts in this formerly terrific board. Yours is one of them.