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To: IQBAL LATIF who wrote (44526)9/4/2003 2:21:16 AM
From: IQBAL LATIF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50167
 
"Nous Sommes Tous Américains" V/S Tous Américains? le monde après le 11 septembre 2001

To maintain France's sympathy, and that of Le Monde, the United States would have had to turn the other cheek to the murderers of al Qaeda, spare the Taliban, and engage the Muslim world in some high civilizational dialogue.

<<<<<Much has been made of the sympathy that the French expressed for the United States immediately after the September 11 attacks, as embodied by the famous editorial of Le Monde's publisher Jean-Marie Colombani, "Nous Sommes Tous Américains" ("We are all Americans"). And much has been made of the speed with which the United States presumably squandered that sympathy in the months that followed. But even Colombani's column, written on so searing a day, was not the unalloyed message of sympathy suggested by the title. Even on that very day, Colombani wrote of the United States reaping the whirlwind of its "cynicism"; he recycled the hackneyed charge that Osama bin Laden had been created and nurtured by U.S. intelligence agencies.

Colombani quickly retracted what little sympathy he had expressed when, in December of 2001, he was back with an open letter to "our American friends" and soon thereafter with a short book, Tous Américains? le monde après le 11 septembre 2001 (All Americans? The World After September 11, 2001). By now the sympathy had drained, and the tone was one of belligerent judgment and disapproval. There was nothing to admire in Colombani's United States, which had run roughshod in the world and had been indifferent to the rule of law. Colombani described the U.S. republic as a fundamentalist Christian enterprise, its magistrates too deeply attached to the death penalty, its police cruel to its black population. A republic of this sort could not in good conscience undertake a campaign against Islamism. One can't, Colombani writes, battle the Taliban while trying to introduce prayers in one's own schools; one can't strive to reform Saudi Arabia while refusing to teach Darwinism in the schools of the Bible Belt; and one can't denounce the demands of the sharia (Islamic law) while refusing to outlaw the death penalty. Doubtless, he adds, the United States can't do battle with the Taliban before doing battle against the bigotry that ravages the depths of the United States itself. The United States had not squandered Colombani's sympathy; he never had that sympathy in the first place.

Colombani was hardly alone in the French intellectual class in his enmity toward the United States. On November 3, 2001, in Le Monde, the writer and pundit Jean Baudrillard permitted himself a thought of stunning cynicism. He saw the perpetrators of September 11 acting out his own dreams and the dreams of others like him. He gave those attacks a sort of universal warrant: "How we have dreamt of this event," he wrote, "how all the world without exception dreamt of this event, for no one can avoid dreaming of the destruction of a power that has become hegemonic . . . . It is they who acted, but we who wanted the deed." Casting caution and false sympathy aside, Baudrillard saw the terrible attacks on the United States as an "object of desire." The terrorists had been able to draw on a "deep complicity," knowing perfectly well that they were acting out the hidden yearnings of others oppressed by the United States' order and power. To him, morality of the U.S. variety is a sham, and the terrorism directed against it is a legitimate response to the inequities of "globalization."

In his country's intellectual landscape, Baudrillard was no loner. A struggle had raged throughout the 1990s, pitting U.S.-led globalization (with its low government expenditures, a "cheap" and merciless Wall Street-Treasury Department axis keen on greater discipline in the market, and relatively long working hours on the part of labor) against France's protectionist political economy. The primacy the United States assigned to liberty waged a pitched battle against the French commitment to equity.

To maintain France's sympathy, and that of Le Monde, the United States would have had to turn the other cheek to the murderers of al Qaeda, spare the Taliban, and engage the Muslim world in some high civilizational dialogue. But who needs high approval ratings in Marseille? Envy of U.S. power, and of the United States' universalism, is the ruling passion of French intellectual life. It is not "mostly Bush" that turned France against the United States. The former Socialist foreign minister, Hubert Védrine, was given to the same anti-Americanism that moves his successor, the bombastic and vain Dominique de Villepin. It was Védrine, it should be recalled, who in the late 1990s had dubbed the United States a "hyperpower." He had done so before the war on terrorism, before the war on Iraq. He had done it against the background of an international order more concerned with economics and markets than with military power. In contrast to his successor, Védrine at least had the honesty to acknowledge that there was nothing unusual about the way the United States wielded its power abroad, or about France's response to that primacy. France, too, he observed, might have been equally overbearing if it possessed the United States' weight and assets.>>>>

Foad Ajami....FP



To: IQBAL LATIF who wrote (44526)9/4/2003 2:57:56 AM
From: Bilow  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50167
 
Hi IQBAL LATIF; Re: "One of his daughters had made her way to the University of Texas where she received a master's degree in biology, a son had earned a Ph.D. from the University of Central Florida in Orlando, and yet another son had embarked on that quintessential American degree, an MBA at the American University in Cairo. Al-Qaradawi embodies anti-Americanism as the flip side of Americanization".

I don't see a contradiction here. You want your kids to have the best education, so you send them to the US. But that doesn't mean that you want the US (a) dropping bombs on your cousins in Iraq, or (b) bringing their morality into your country.

In fact, didn't some of the early leaders of India (and Pakistan at the time, I suppose), the ones who insisted on the British leaving, get educated in the West? I'm not perfectly familiar with the details of their personal lives, but I wouldn't doubt that they would send their kids to England for their education too.

It's been going on like that for thousands of years. The elites frequently send their kids to the best schools, whether they abroad or at home. They try to bring back the best of what they see (such as the internet the article refers to), and to reject the parts that they don't want. But it's hardly intelligent to force your country to live in mud huts simply because you don't agree with the morality or foreign policies of the leading countries.

Humans are basically chimps, and chimps are well known for imitation. Where humans beat chimps is that they are better at picking out what to imitate, and understanding and modifying that imitation.

To classify the US as a purely useless country, with no worthwhile technology or anything else, would be silly. No one can seriously doubt that the US leads the world in military technology, and there are many many other areas where we are world leaders.

Perhaps the author fails to understand the complexity of Sheik Yusuf al-Qaradawi. It notes that his complaint with the US is about: "... the arrogance of the United States and the cruelty of the war it unleashed on Iraq." I fail to see what that has to do with where your children are educated. If the man were a simpleton, who can only possess one thought, then he could conclude that since the US is "arrogant" and started a "cruel" war, therefore the US cannot offer good education. But the very arrogance of the US that he is complaining about speaks to the technological advantages of the US.

Now if the sheik's message was about the "incompetence" of the US, and their inability to compete in business, then his sending his kids to be educated here would be more difficult to understand, though still not impossible. To come to the conclusion that he shouldn't have his kids educated here he would have had to have commented on the "incompetence of the Americans at educating foreign students", LOL.

And no one would think that when the sheik says the US is "arrogant", that this would apply to everyone in the US. Nor would it necessarily apply to every school in the US. Far less than 100% of the American people were in support of the "cruel" war in Iraq. Nor should the American people, as a whole, be blamed for the admittedly arrogant actions of the few people who arranged for the disastrous war with Iraq.

It seems to me that the problem with finding fault with the Sheik for sending his kids to be educated in the "Mother of all Arrogance" is similar to the Israeli tendency to blame the Palestinians for criminal acts by a minority of Palestinian citizens (and vice versa). It's a generalization that neither logic nor experience supports. Nations are not collections of identical creatures; and collective punishment or reward is ineffective.

-- Carl