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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (73875)	9/4/2003 2:30:25 AM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Exactly. I just cannot imagine equality between not hanging one who is guilty versus hanging some innocent human being. I keep remembering something I read years ago in "We The Living" by Ayn Rand. It was something about something so personal and so precious and so Ultimate...that nothing ought to forcibly have touched it. She was talking about that inner sense of self...that special life--that lottery of existence. That awareness that should never be ended on a coin toss. Never, never, never...

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (73875)	9/4/2003 11:13:32 AM
From: The Philosopher	Respond to of 82486

It is an injustice to imprison an innocent man. If you are speaking colloquially, that is okay. If you're speaking legally, you can't imprison an innocent man, because if they're in prison they have been found guilty and are therefore, legally, not innocent. (You can jail them, however, because people can be jailed before trial, whether they are innocent or guilty.) That's the problem going around here. There are multiple uses and meanings of guilt and innocence. There's the common meaning, and there's the legal meaning, and they're quite different. But you and some others use them interchangeably, which is an error. As long as you're discussing legal issues in the legal arena, you should use them correctly in their legal usage.