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To: unclewest who wrote (6736)	9/4/2003 12:38:07 PM
From: MSI	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793658

Take it up with Eisenhower When people speak to you about a preventive war, you tell them to go and fight it." - Dwight D. Eisenhower "The pres is a servant of the people" ... overused and therefore meaningless Very interesting. This one phrase attempts to find a way to ignore the fundamental principle of our gov't as being "overused and therefore meaningless". Propaganda techniques depend on overuse and repitition. A knowledgeable citizen wouldn't dismiss a principle of gov't because it's "overused". The enemies foreign and domestic are the Saudi hijackers, their Afghani and Paki associates, and anyone who stands in the way of a full, transparent investigation of every fact of the attack. Hmmm.... sounds like there may well indeed quite a few of those Most of those preemptive attacks were initiated by Democratic Presidents...did you object then? You are missing the boat. I'm not a Dem, nor am I a pacifist. You are barking up the wrong tree.

To: unclewest who wrote (6736)	9/4/2003 12:40:58 PM
From: MSI	Respond to of 793658

Message 19270703 Patrick Henry Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force, and whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined. They are being allowed too much money. They are being given too much power. The power of the federal courts would swell the patronage of the president. The president will lead in the treason. Your militia will leave you and fight against you. The clause before you gives a power of direct taxation unbounded and unlimited. Your laws on impeachment are a sham and a mockery due to mutual implication of government officials. The cession of the whole treaty-making power to the president and the senate is one of the most fearful features in this Constitution, as they can enter into the most ruinous of foreign engagements.