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To: Elsewhere who wrote (113914)	9/4/2003 3:23:47 PM
From: greenspirit	Respond to of 281500

Sorry Jochen, I meant to say Iran and corrected it before the 15 minute window elapsed.

To: Elsewhere who wrote (113914)	9/4/2003 3:29:02 PM
From: carranza2	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Richard Holbrooke, Clinton's Ambasador to the UN, dealt with that point on Charlie Rose last night, noting that a lot of military operations undertaken by the UN are in reality a single country's bailiwick. For example, the UN is the entity that is formally the military presence in South Korea, though you will not see any blue helmets. The "UN" effort there is clearly American. Ditto for the Australian's initiative in East Timor. As I appreciate the American effort as envisioned by Powell, there will be no "blue helmets" in Iraq, only foreign forces under command of the US. Presumably this is what has the French choking over their coquilles St. Jacques, though if they were smart, they would seize the opportunity to repair the damage to relations with the US by agreeing to US terms without an inordinate amount of prevarication.

To: Elsewhere who wrote (113914)	9/4/2003 4:02:05 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

The White House administration insists on remaining in control in Iraq. How should Europe then accomplish "stepping up to the plate and lead"? I would be happy to see Europe take the lead in Iran with regard to that country's nuclear program. Read an article today suggesting just such a thing.. It would stifle European dissent towards the US role in Iraq, while giving them the prestige of taking the lead in the non-proliferation "battle" with Iran. But diluting the leadership authority in Iraq is equivalent to too many cooks in the kitchen. It would digress into partisan bickering between participating UNSC and UN members. But I think Powell has drawn an acceptable compromise with the US reporting to the UN on its activities in Iraq. This lends that body sufficient prestige to be considered the authoritative final council to which the US is accountable.. (in addition to the Iraqi and American people). Either way it's pretty clear that Jochen Fischer isn't exactly dancing a jig about sending German troops to Iraq. I doubt there will be much support out of that government without some serious pressure, internally and externally. Hawk