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To: TimF who wrote (919)	9/4/2003 6:08:15 PM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1112

It's a big subject, and complicated. In a forum like this one can either discuss a particular detail in detail, or one must be reduced to generalities to talk about the big picture. I suspect if I managed to write all the details of the big picture I would sell it in a book and not just drop it into the public domain piecemeal. Maybe someday.

To: TimF who wrote (919)	9/5/2003 10:23:19 AM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1112

Sinister events for the next elections. <font color=brown> For some reason, the Diebold optical scan machines in 57 precincts at once had an E.T. moment. They called home with election results while the election was still in progress, summing up the votes in 57 precincts, then tagged the file to a Diebold employee and placed it on a Diebold company web site. </font> indymedia.org How to hack a voting machine. scoop.co.nz The secret meetings to install non-traceable vote counters. onlinejournal.com <font color=purple> As millions of voters prepare to use electronic voting machines for the first time we take a look at the companies selling these machines and their ties to the Bush administration. We speak with reporter Julie Carr Smyth and author Bev Harris. Russian dictator Joseph Stalin once said: “Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything.” Well, as millions of American voters prepare to use electronic voting machines for the first time in the, questions about who owns these vote-counting machines are rife. One company, Diebold Inc., has been shown to have strong Republican ties, specifically to the Bush administration. Diebold is one of the companies vying to sell electronic voting machines in Ohio. A recent article by Julie Carr Smyth in The Cleveland Plain Dealer reported that the head of Diebold is also a top fundraiser for President Bush's re-election.</font><font color=blue> In a recent fund-raising letter Diebold's chief executive Walden O'Dell said he is "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."</font><font color=purple> In July, O’Dell invited Vice President Dick Cheney to his house for a fundraiser which ended up raising $500,000 for Cheney. On a trip to Ohio, President Bush visited one of Diebold’s board members - W.R. Timken - who took him on a tour of the company. Timken, is a “Pioneer” - the name given to wealthy Bush benefactors. And a study of the contributions made to Diebold by its employees revealed an unusual pattern: Hundreds of thousands of dollars were being funneled to a few Republican candidates with very little to any other party. In Illinois, Populex is the company that is creating the electronic voting system for the state. It was recently revealed that Frank Carlucci of the Carlyle Group fame is now advising Populex. The Carlyle Group is a Defense Contractor often called the "Ex-President's Club" because of partners and advisors on their payroll, including George Bush Sr. * Julie Carr Smyth, state government reporter for the Cleveland Plain Dealer. She has been reporting on electronic voting machines for the past few months. * Bev Harris, author of Black Box Voting: Ballot-Tampering in the 21st Century, who uncovered the public internet site where Diebold’s source code was posted. Link: www.blackboxvoting.org </font>