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To: LindyBill who wrote (6888)	9/5/2003 11:57:29 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793758

Richard Haas of the CFR is on Charlie Rose tonight, and he's making a lot of sense about the nation building we have to do in Iraq. The gist: we've made a heavy commitment, and we have to keep it up, the stakes are too high, we cannot afford failure, but the good news is that it's about the third inning; neither success nor failure is locked in at this moment. A breath of fresh air after that idiot woman Matthews last night, who concluded that if more than one reason was offered for invading Iraq that meant there were no reasons and since we now faced a guerilla war we should surrender immediately since Vietnam proved that every guerilla war was unwinnable.

To: LindyBill who wrote (6888)	9/6/2003 12:08:12 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 793758

In fact, there is no difference between the stated goals of Mr. Arafat and Mr. Abbas: a Palestinian state, with its capital in Jerusalem, in all of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, which Israel occupied in the 1967 war. Both men say they want to see all Israeli settlements removed from the occupied territories. The difference is that Arafat doesn't mean it. Not if it means having to give up the armed struggle to destroy Israel. He wants a state only if he can keep a warrant to kill Jews. What this article means is that Arafat has successfully sabotaged Abu Mazen. No surprise there. As I predicted. Arafat is very good at sabotage. The 'road map' is now dead with a capital D. Only question is, how long will it stay aboveground before it gets buried. The Israelis are debating exiling Arafat again but still don't dare kill him. So the war will flare up again, with more 'juice' this time, and less restraint on Israel by the Israelis or the Americans. Meantime, the Israelis will continue to build the security fence, whose creeping annexation of border territories is the Israeli answer to the intifada - you stick to terrorism, you will not gain by it, but lose by it. And the deal next time will be worse for you than the deal last time.