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Politics : Bush-The Mastermind behind 9/11? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (2521)9/9/2003 10:44:25 AM
From: LPS5  Respond to of 20039
 
You made no effort to watch the documentary videos I have given links to...

Of course I'm not going to buy videos on your recommendation.

And don't you think it's a bit telling - or, at least, can you see how it might look - that all you've got to offer as evidence for these grandiose conspiracy theories are a couple of videotapes, a few personal webpages and a handful of links to uncited articles?

...so I know you are not serious about getting to the bottom of anything.

On the contrary: I think this series of exchanges between us has uncovered exactly what the rash of emotional, illogical, and in any case completely specious conspiracy theories are about.

And yet, I remain open to considering other evidence. Yes, even after all this, I'll continue to consider whatever other information you want to present in defense of your (a) 9/11 and/or (b) CFR theories.

You have not read the Cato Institute report of the governments Total Information Awareness program. The Cato Institute even has Libertarian connections and still you say I offer no credible sources.

I addressed your attempt to change the subject here.

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Rest assured, I read many of the Cato Institute articles; naturally, none of them have anything to do with conspiracy theories concerning 9/11 and/or Illuminati-like theories regarding the Council on Foreign Affairs.

You seem to be making desperate leaps, but whether they're rooted in a completely delusional frame of reference or utter frustration I cannot tell. Are you asserting that I must believe in huge, covert plots by secret political bodies in order to 'properly' distain the coercion State?

So 2 documentaries and the report and you have investigated none of them.

Again: the Cato Institute report makes no mention of, and has nothing to do with, your unsubstantiated, reaching conspiracy theories. And, again, with respect to the videotapes you're hawking: no, I'm not going to purchase them. If the information on them was so monumental as you seem to be suggesting, it would be available in book form, wouldn't it?

Why do you think one has to travel to the unwashed edges of the internet (or, I guess, buy videotapes) to find this stuff?

And you misrepresent what I post...

Show me one place where I've misrepresented what you've posted.

...as in saying I have no source when I said I can't find the source because I have so many bookmarks.

My reason in asking for a link was stated at the onset:

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I said - and you didn't dispute - that the context of the quote was crucial in determining exactly what was meant by the individual being quoted. Do you disagree?

Very disingenuous.

Truly.

I said being a Libertarian does not make you intelligent because even though I agree with a lot of your beliefs as a Libertarian you weren't smart enough to start a constructive dialog with me based on our mutually shared beliefs about libery and limited government.

This dialog has been completely constructive, at least from my perspective. I came to this thread skeptical about, but willing to consider, the evidence behind 9/11 conspiracy theories, and after seeing what you and the other folks have brought to the table, I feel that my initial skepticism was well advised. You're welcome to present more information, though, although I do ask that you tighten it up a bit.

And you also have an aversion to learning anything.

Am I? Constantly asking, as I do, for additional information?

If you were to provide credible information referencing cited facts - let alone, information that was immediately relevant to the conversation at hand - I would be more than willing to consider it. What you've done to this point is provide emotional, undocumented opinions and essentially ask me to accept them unquestioningly. That's not going to happen.

I asked you to stop posting to me but you have no self restraint.

That's a predictably self-serving conclusion. If you put me on Ignore, as you said you did, what should it matter if I continue to post to you or not?

And indeed, I've already said...and here, will say again...that I will continue to question poorly (or un-) documented information and otherwise ill-constructed arguments.

The topics are far too important to allow for slapdash handling.

LPS5