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To: sea_urchin who wrote (18957)	9/9/2003 10:17:54 PM
From: sea_urchin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81205

> I just keep wondering how long they can keep hoodwinking the American people? presentdanger.org >>>All of this has emboldened retired senior officers to unleash unprecedented criticism of Rumsfeld and his chief aides. At a meeting Thursday of several hundred Marine and Navy officers, retired Marine Gen. Anthony Zinni, who served as head of the U.S. Central Command until 2000 when he supported Bush's presidential candidacy, issued a blistering attack on the Pentagon leadership's performance in Iraq, even comparing it to the Vietnam War. "My contemporaries, our feelings and sensitivities," said Zinni, "were forged on the battlefields of Vietnam, where we heard the garbage and the lies, and we saw the sacrifice," he said. "I ask you, is it happening again?" Zinni, who now works for Powell on Middle East issues at the State Department, also complained bitterly about both the Pentagon's planning for post-war Iraq and the decision to circumvent the UN in going to war. "We certainly blew past the UN," he said. "Why, I don't know. Now we're going back hat in hand." Zinni received "prolonged applause at the end," according to the Washington Post, which noted that some officers bought tapes of the speech to give to others. ''I've never seen so much discontent among the retired community," former Marine Lt. Gen. Paul Van Riper, who served as a commander in the Gulf War, told another Post reporter. At a meeting last week with eight other retired generals, Van Riper said, one asked about Rumsfeld, who was on an unannounced visit to Baghdad at the time. "When are they going to get rid of this guy?"<<<

To: sea_urchin who wrote (18957)	9/10/2003 1:17:19 PM
From: Ahda	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81205

>>I just keep wondering how long they can keep hoodwinking the American people? Maybe, it seems, forever --- because what choice have they?! Better a crazy life of make-believe than to wake up to reality in the street. Or could you mean when the street wakes up to the internal condition of the US? In CA the make believe was the ease of obtaining financing and the property rise that went right along with it. This increased costs decreased potential and long range budget planning is now next year. That is not growth it is struggle. We could possibly be very close to the end of increased property price here as there are more houses coming on to the market than there were at the start of summer. Interest rates going up play havoc on those that have adjustable loans. In the mean time the rapid rise in property as well as problems associated with operating in our state have reduced business investment. Growth is a long range thing when growth is being viewed as can we make it until next year it sure doesn't bode well for future. Imports give us reduced cost and are a vital part of keeping our inflation in tow, if they reduced one end of inflation we inflated in other areas. If we put tariffs on China unless you have Corporation American clause or some such thing that ends as non Tariff US you are shooting yourself in the foot again and I suppose in the head world wise if you have tariff exclusion. US has to be very careful as she opts for protectionism. The exterior that holds our dollars will find that our immediate future value is decreasing and accidently so is our investment in theirs. They are holding a dollar that as the euro has limited investment value. Lots of muck in the currency basket especially if you start thinking of the IMF and it's prime supporter. So I suppose this is good for gold if not good for the situation we have here. Bubbles come from leaping and not looking and right now there are many who are looking at status quo at best here in CA. Status quo is not covering the increase we have in insurance as well as basic living costs. To me Searle at this time of high cost to business and limited value on dollar I believe there is a very high probability of gold increasing. Now you can go back to castration of GWB. Though IMHO it was AG who severed the balls of this nation too much Viagra and no self correction or elimination of excess currency. We would not have this super low value of dollar investment power.. had AG stayed out of the extension business.