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To: TigerPaw who wrote (953)	9/10/2003 7:16:18 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1112

When you look at the actions of James Baker, or Tom DeLay, or Karl Rove it reveals that sinister motives are more likely than benign ones. Even most people who would generally be considered sinister or malicious act from less then sinister motives much of the time. Also it is not a given that for example Karl Rove is sinister and malicious. Their whole philosophy of power is that if you can't win at the election, then win in the recall. If you can't win then impeach and try again. If you can win even once then change the rules, the districts, and the machines to insure you never lose. The recall election is part of the rules not changing them. Impeachment of Clinton, rightly or wrongly was a matter of principle for many of those participating in it. As for voting machines and voter fraud your evidence is slim . Democracy is not a goal for them, it is a tool to achieve aristocracy. I do not agree. Power might be a goal for them, but I see not plan to achieve, or movement towards control by an aristocracy. Tim