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To: yard_man who wrote (259835)	9/10/2003 6:14:18 PM
From: patron_anejo_por_favor	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 436258

I see your point...but the system you've described is hopelessly complex with regard to underwriting, eligibility review and administration of claims. It's MORE complex than what we have now, in fact. The argument for nationalization centers around two key issues: Universal coverage and a very well circumscribed package of benefits that can be more simply, quickly and fairly administered. On the margin, it may be less expensive, but that's not the key issue (at least at first). Providers deal with fewer entities, which may cut costs on their end. If necessary, costs can be contained later by across the board reduction in benefits. For example, in one fell swoop Viagra could be made an exclusion. Or obesity surgery. Or breast reductions, ad infinitum. The basics are provided, not much more. If people want more they can pay for it themselves, or buy supplementals. It ain't perfect by a long shot, but it's a lot better than what we've got now.

To: yard_man who wrote (259835)	9/10/2003 6:18:11 PM
From: Secret_Agent_Man	Respond to of 436258

Tippet, this in essence what's available to those who dont have insurance they can go to an emergency room if they are in bad enough shape and be treated -- but the cost is borne by those who have coverage. it's already in effect and if you can not afford a doctor one will be appointed to you by your taxpayers-ng I did ER for 12 years and this is oft the case and to make matters worse the trully proud yet indigent will not come in until it is catastrophic unlike the daily visits by the less fortunate, mentally, socially and economically disadvantaged it's not a great system but it works to an extent, my problem is with the whole beaurcracy(sp)-ng