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To: Jon Khymn who wrote (706)	9/10/2003 9:13:24 PM
From: James F. Hopkins	Respond to of 795

I never tried boxing a stock, in fact I don't even short them.. just the ETFs..if I'm bearish enough on a stock I just use puts.. ---- It's not often when we get a set up like last OCT... every one in a panic to get out..tahts what I like.. With the VIX so damm high they will almost pay me to take the stock. :-). ----- Well back to boxing, another system is to long one; say the MDY..and short the SPY (equal money) with taht; if you fall asleep you won't get hurt to bad.. --- finance.yahoo.com Jim PS The Big hedgers have been playing long Dow short SPX finance.yahoo.com