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To: patron_anejo_por_favor who wrote (259852)	9/10/2003 9:14:14 PM
From: dvdw©	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 436258

Patron there is a real shortage of professionals in North Korea who think exactly like you. My understanding is that you could fullfill every single rationalization your projecting, by just relocating to one of the socialist enclaves still thriving; where absolutely everything you want already exists in spades. The lefts ideas have a record, theyve been on display for near 100 years, and are still on display in real time. I invite you to use some of your frequent thinker miles on an airline ticket...there are some very nice camps in Northern North Korea where English teachers could make a material living... think about it. Not a flame, its just a choice; ready made to your positions. Think of the power, the glory, the free rent and health care.

To: patron_anejo_por_favor who wrote (259852)	9/10/2003 10:20:27 PM
From: Oblomov	Respond to of 436258

Of course every disease is not preventable. But the most common ones afflicting Americans are to a large extent preventable, or at least delayable. Shouldn't the choices made by someone have consequences? Why should someone swinging their fists wildly be permitted to strike my nose (or grab my wallet)? >>the "consequences of preventible illness" are frequently socialized right now! True, but they should not be. Medical treatment is not a right. This is not to say that the government does not have a role. But why should our health care system, which despite its flaws has the best technological innovation and quality of treatment, be turned over to the same entity that has failed two generations with its mismanagement of the school system? I'll take my pick... I don't expect someone else to pay my bills. I consider it my duty to be prepared for the worst. >>There are a lot of other things that don't happen in our current system...like health care for children of uninsured workers....or prenatal care for uninsured moms. >>This is not a problem that is easily or efficiently dealt with by the free market system. So, socializing it fixes the problem? Very unlikely. The treatment in these cases would simply be less likely to happen. Or it would happen on terms acceptable to some valiant, tireless public servant with a sinecure at an administrative complex somewhere. The only problem that it would definitely solve is that it would assuage liberal guilt. "Yep, we sure fixed that problem! Just like we solved the problem of affordable housing by erecting modernist skyscrapers like the Robert Taylor Homes and Cabrini Green! Maybe we should name the whole program after a slain civil rights leader to make it above reproach."