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To: LindyBill who wrote (7558)9/10/2003 11:38:53 PM
From: JohnM  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793791
 
Just read it. Right argument. But Sharon's not listening. Friedman's right about the contrast with the Oslo agreements.



To: LindyBill who wrote (7558)9/11/2003 12:46:59 AM
From: MSI  Respond to of 793791
 
"For there to be a chance for Israeli-Palestinian coexistence, the Palestinians will have to get their act together. For them to get their act together, Israel will have to invest heavily in them ? without any guarantee of success."

True.

Suicide bombing is becoming so routine here that it risks becoming embedded in contemporary culture. America must stop it. A credible peace deal here is no longer a U.S. luxury ? it is essential to our own homeland security. Otherwise, this suicide madness will spread, and it will be Americans who will have to learn how to live with it

That's the plan. That will increase the need for, and power of, the central gov't and all its officials. Talk to any Israelis and they accept this as no big deal for America. They depend on the US to suffer along with them.

The only way to reverse that? Is to pull out all support, facing the truth that we do not have the solution to everyone's problems. The minute they heard the US wasn't going to continue to subsidize this carnage you would see the Pali and Israelis learn to live together so fast it would make your head spin.

The ONLY candidate with that POV is Dean, afaik.

I've spent time on a kibbutz in my teenage years also -- I don't think that controlled my thinking -- but it sure gave me an absolutely clear understanding that the US does not belong in the middle of foreign blood feuds. Yet, that's exactly where we are, and it is extremely profitable to our corrupt political and business system.



To: LindyBill who wrote (7558)9/11/2003 2:33:48 AM
From: D. Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793791
 
A credible peace deal here is no longer a U.S. luxury ? it is essential to our own homeland security. Otherwise, this suicide madness will spread, and it will be Americans who will have to learn how to live with it.

Seems like more of an argument against himself. If suicide bombing is seen as a winning strategy to extract concessions, then it WILL spread, and Americans WILL have to learn how to live with it. After US policy became "no negotiating with terrorists", kidnappings as a political act died out. US policy should similarly not reward suicide bombing, IMHO.

Derek