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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (7650)9/11/2003 5:28:26 PM
From: Ish  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793800
 
Many things have popped into my mind today about 9/11. One picture that keeps popping up is the footage of the Palestinians dancing in the street with joy as over 3,000 Americans are being horribly slaughtered. It's something I remember whenever I hear about the poor Palestinians. Sorry about not being PC. My opinions get colored by events.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (7650)9/11/2003 7:39:19 PM
From: JohnM  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793800
 
Nadine, you have this habit of asking questions which you think by virtue of their being asked they become imperatives to be answered. You have asked the wrong question.

Let me back up.

1. Sharon's policies have not made Israelis more secure. Certainly, that was their primary aim.
2. Only showing the face of force with the intent to inspire fear in the Palestinians is a guaranteed recruitment device for Hamas et al and an obvious source of increasing insecurity.
3. Showing the face of force while also showing the face of a willingness to work with the Palestinians, to pull back the settlements rather than increase them, to favor security measures that seem reasonable rather than ones that grab more Palestinian lands, to work with US attempts to put in place better processes rather than grab any moment to undermine them. Not hard. Surely there are more. The need is to be two faces on the occupation, not simply the face of force and fear.
4. But, frankly, both the Israelis and the Palestinians are in the unfortunate grips of their more if not most extremist elements. Only the Israelis have the ability to move to something else. But it's not going to happen. Only the US administration has the ability to alter paths. But that's not going to happen.

I still recall tek returning from a tour of Palestine and Israel and posting a terribly despairing comment, well before 9-11, to one of the G&K threads about the downward spiraling character of the conflict. That still echoes. And that spiral still goes down.