Sept 11, 2001 ( cont )
17:01] Dako >> cnn explaining Pittsburgh crash
[17:01] ssgold >> just got off the phone with a guys who is convinced it is Bin Laden..and that Laden shorted the market bigtime before today..to..use the US's own money to pay for this attack
[17:01] ssgold >> blah, blah
[17:01] Dako >> actaully explaining all 4 crashes timeline
[17:02] mweka >> that is what I suggested ssgold
[17:02] +rhansen >> see you all later, going to go have a drink
[17:02] Dako >> cya rhan...i'll be joining you
[17:02] ssgold >> sorry missed it mweka...anyway...guess anuthying is possible
[17:03] mweka >> I think he did it... it is too easy....
[17:03] ssgold >> im going home to corral the kids...
[17:03] Dako >> that would be a bit more egregious than the Emulex hoax
[17:04] anthony >> ok im home
[17:04] anthony >> what i misss
[17:04] mweka >> weapons on plane were knives and cardboard cutters...
[17:04] mweka >> according to CNN /. Barbara Olson...
[17:04] anthony >> Im home what i miss
[17:04] Dako >> unreal
[17:04] Davidh >> mweka, just heard that. who is the witness?
[17:04] mweka >> Ted Olson's wife
[17:05] Dako >> she was on one of the planes
[17:05] mweka >> she called from a plane bathroon multipke times
[17:05] mweka >> it is on cnn
[17:05] Davidh >> wow
[17:05] cartage >> said everyone was herded to back of plane
[17:06] Dako >> ap.....it sounds like State Dept. is leaking that it has evidence that it was Bin Laden
[17:06] Davidh >> I know it's easy to say this not being there but I can't understand how they could control all the passengers with knives and box cutters
[17:06] anthony >> dako im waiting..to hear from my bro
[17:07] Dako >> nothing yet?
[17:07] Bbones >> JUST COST ME 4.00 GAL. TO FILL UP MY CAR!!!!!!!!!! BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!
[17:07] cartage >> what????
[17:07] cartage >> where?
[17:07] Bbones >> yes
[17:07] steveh >> ???
[17:07] Bbones >> illinois
[17:08] steveh >> wow
[17:08] cartage >> thats obscene
[17:08] Bbones >> jumped from 1.89 to 4.00
[17:08] Dako >> no way a major co. going to do that, bbones
[17:08] Bbones >> they did
[17:08] Dako >> what co?
[17:08] Bbones >> amoco
[17:08] petewitt >> Bbones what?
[17:08] Dako >> the guy will get nailed for that
[17:09] PabloE >> It is confirmed in Indianapolis $4 bucks a gallon also
[17:09] Bbones >> its all over town
[17:09] cartage >> that station owner going to jail imho
[17:09] Dako >> premium here is 1.67
[17:09] Bbones >> better go fill up
[17:09] Dako >> a few minutes ago
[17:09] Bbones >> i just paid 87.50 to fill up!!!!!1
[17:10] +ACS_101 >> BBC reporting Salomon Bldg collapsed
[17:10] +ACS_101 >> Also Marriott next to WTC "partially collapsed"
[17:11] Bbones >> My company is working a job 120 miles away...3 trucks..will cost me 250.00 a day to work job!!!!!!
[17:11] Dako >> ACS, i think the Marriott problem was baked in the cake.....really really close to one of the two towers
[17:11] WhoLovesYa >> costargroup.com
[17:12] WhoLovesYa >> If you look at that map you will see the Marriot in the background between the 2 towers
[17:12] +pluvia >> 6 bones - that's outta control
[17:12] +ACS_101 >> They say Salomon Bldg is 47 floors
[17:13] WhoLovesYa >> costargroup.com
[17:13] mweka >> good map who
[17:16] WhoLovesYa >> Salomon is in 7 world trade center
[17:16] JimmyLiberato >> Bbones, slice the hoses after hours.
[17:16] Dako >> btw, i was told that Merrill Lynch got all of its people out safely.........5WFC
[17:16] anthony >> We are Americans & We believe in each other and the principles that Our country were founded on, we will rally together and we will rise above this . I believe in our ability to overcome this nightmare !
[17:17] anthony >> even Blodgett??
[17:17] cartage >> as Yamamoto said after the bombing of Pearl Harbor, they have awoken the Sleeping Giant
[17:17] WhoLovesYa >> WFC are accross the street from the WTC
[17:17] Dako >> they waited to get him out last, Tony
[17:17] anthony >> dako they should have had him stick around and lock up
[17:18] anthony >> just kidding
[17:18] Dako >> they would have to retrain him
[17:18] anthony >> even he doesnt deservce to meet this horror
[17:19] Dako >> wife just called from station with highest prices in town....premium is $1.72......maybe up a few cents from yesterday
[17:19] mweka >> what city dako?
[17:20] cartage >> Bbones, whats totally insane about paying $4.00/gal for gas today, that gas was refined awhile back on crude extracted from the earth months ago...the balls of these people to take advantage of this situation
[17:20] Dako >> Ponte Vedra Beach, FL, mweka
[17:20] WhoLovesYa >> nycskyscrapers.com
[17:20] Dako >> near Jacksonville
[17:20] mweka >> should be good for SLPH stock...... bwhahaha
[17:20] happy >> Clancy on CNN
[17:21] cartage >> Building 7 gone
[17:22] +pluvia >> 6 msnbc showing #7 wtc go down...
[17:22] anthony >> Suicide Is against Islam, those who commit suicide are condemned to hell
[17:22] anthony >> just like judaism and christianity..this isnt about religion its about cowardice
[17:22] zeez >> indeed
[17:23] Dako >> State Dept. could use Clancy, but they couldnt afford him
[17:23] anthony >> anyone have that yahoo link again, my brother wants to see it
[17:23] WhoLovesYa >> messages.yahoo.com
[17:23] anthony >> thank you
[17:24] anthony >> messages.yahoo.com
[17:24] steveh >> Wow, CNN announcer s\ure didn't like to hear what Clancy had to say about intelligence operations.
[17:24] anthony >> PR news wires offers free news releases'
[17:24] steveh >> Bet he won't be back on CNN again today
[17:25] anthony >> why what did clancy say
[17:25] Dako >> WhoLovesYa.....CNBC showing ur link
[17:25] mweka >> I am looking at aerial photo of area - bond should be ok
[17:25] JimmyLiberato >> SEC enforcement division in #7
[17:25] mweka >> past tense Jimmy
[17:25] Dako >> that's what i said a dozen times, mweka
[17:25] Dako >> re bond
[17:25] steveh >> Said there isn't enough funding for intelligence
[17:26] mweka >> mapquest.com
[17:26] steveh >> They need to double the number of employees who are spooks and on spook missions.
[17:26] Dako >> tony, Clancy said CIA has 20,000 employees with only about 800 real spies
[17:26] +pluvia >> 6 sec enforcement bld down?
[17:26] steveh >> Literally used the term spook and spook missions.
[17:26] anthony >> SEC enforcement is gone??
[17:26] anthony >> NO WAY
[17:26] steveh >> announcer reponded in suprise and siad you mean spies?
[17:27] steveh >> duh, you dumy
[17:27] steveh >> then cut him off big time
[17:27] Dako >> that was ultra-liberal Judy Woodruff, right steveh?
[17:27] anthony >> CNBC reported the yahoo link??
[17:27] chris431 >> footage of bldng #7 collapsing on cnn
[17:27] mweka >> they are in building 7, building 7 collapsed.....
[17:27] steveh >> I don't know how, I never watch CNN so I dont know who the players are
[17:27] mweka >> ergo.....
[17:27] cartage >> pictures on CNBC of FBI agents wth fully automated weapons protecting
[17:28] cartage >> Federal Buildings in LA says it all
[17:28] mweka >> u can see the plane go thru bldg
[17:28] steveh >> brutal
[17:29] anthony >> CNBC reported the yahoo link??
[17:29] anthony >> CNBC reported the yahoo link??
[17:29] anthony >> CNBC reported the yahoo link??
[17:29] Dako >> US is now 90% sure Bin Laden is responsible.........per cnbc
[17:29] anthony >> dako did they?
[17:29] Salogan >> I am frightened to think the terrorists are home grown americans
[17:29] chris431 >> SEC & SSB in buidling #7
[17:30] Dako >> i didnt see that tony
[17:30] mweka >> msnbc.com
[17:30] Dako >> but i am looking at closed caption on cnbc and watching and listening to cnn
[17:30] cartage >> the losses by US businesses resulting from operational shutdowns will be staggering
[17:30] mweka >> No one else but bin Laden has the capability to do this, one said. No one.
[17:31] mweka >> Private experts were similarly convinced that only one man could be responsible. It was 99.5 percent likely that bin Ladens organization was behind the strike, said terrorism expert Sean Anderson of Idaho State
[17:31] nico >> & he shorted the market to finance it
[17:32] mweka >> Indeed only one, according to U.S. intelligence, which has said many of bin Ladens reported plans involve multiple strikes over multiple days
[17:32] mweka >> Indeed only one, according to U.S. intelligence, which has said many of bin Ladens reported plans involve multiple strikes over multiple days
[17:33] Dako >> then bin laden must be eradicated from the face of the earth tonight
[17:33] Quack >> x
[17:33] anthony >> i will say that the threshold of evidence needed to pursue bin laden will be yultra low
[17:33] Dako >> that is not revenge so much as expunging a virus
[17:33] cartage >> zactly Tony
[17:33] Salogan >> I recall hearing, probably on cnn that control tower heard voices from cockpit of one of the planes speaking in arabic language, but I only heard it once
[17:33] anthony >> he desreves to die even if he didnt do it
[17:33] PabloE >> Kill Bin Laden first worry about evidence later
[17:34] cartage >> Maria talking about the financial impact on re-insurers
[17:34] anthony >> bin laden doesnt speak arabic
[17:34] anthony >> afghani is a difft language
[17:34] Salogan >> did you hear a reference like that tony?
[17:34] anthony >> no sal
[17:35] +pluvia >> 6 bin laden has enough evidence against him for past attrocities to go after him now
[17:35] nico >> this is like a nightmare....
[17:35] petewitt >> you got it Plu
[17:35] Quack >> You gonna hit him Pluv? I'll get the lyme.
[17:35] petewitt >> kill his ass now and look for the next mf
[17:36] JimmyLiberato >> He's Saudi
[17:36] Dako >> the idea that terrorism can be treated like the USSR was during the cold war is about to quickly lose its currency
[17:36] anthony >> im relatively certain that the coward wasnt on any of the planes
[17:36] anthony >> and they were afghani if he was behind it
[17:37] anthony >> maybe some palestinians who knows
[17:37] chris431 >> have you reached BOND?
[17:37] anthony >> no i have not
[17:38] Davidh >> this tragedy will account for countless acts of heroism that we will never hear. not the least of which includes the flight crew and passengers of flight 93 that didn't allow their plane to reach it's intende
[17:38] petewitt >> nationalities are meaningless-terrorist here or abroad need to be erradicated
[17:38] anthony >> they must have put in theirt own pilots
[17:39] anthony >> im not sure after this you can ever eradicate it now
[17:39] Salogan >> if the terrorists were american it would more easily explain the lack of inteliigence knowledge
[17:39] anthony >> this will be viewed as a huge success by the perps
[17:39] Dako >> of course
[17:40] anthony >> to stop america in its tracks
[17:40] anthony >> simply amazing
[17:41] petewitt >> Bbones that gas tip of yours was unreal I imediately left to fill up when I read your post and I was like late!Cars backed up everywhere
[17:41] JimmyLiberato >> Americans usually don't like to die for their causes.
[17:41] Mark_Leh >> I've just returned from giving blood. Thankfully there has been a huge response, but the need is even greater. I hope that all of you will call your local donation center and make an appt as soon as possible
[17:41] Quack >> Leaving now to do that , Mark. God bless ALL!!!
[17:42] anthony >> mark mary and i wil go tonight
[17:42] chris431 >> jimmyliberato...i don't agree...both world wars showed the dedication of americans to die for a cause...
[17:42] Mark_Leh >> Thanks, Quack and Tony.
[17:42] chris431 >> it's primarily vietnam the muddles those waters & imo, many americans went over their & fought despite believing we were fighting a war we shouldn't be in
[17:42] Mark_Leh >> Quack, make an appt first. Donation personnel are overwhelmed.
[17:42] JimmyLiberato >> OK, I see. I was thinking of American terrorits
[17:42] Quack >> ok thx
[17:42] JimmyLiberato >> Like McVeigh
[17:42] chris431 >> many americans that went over & fought & came back to a bunch of liberals who then spit in their face
[17:43] anthony >> Koresh died for his stupid ideas
[17:43] chris431 >> why would you want to die for a cause with such a warm welcome?
[17:43] chris431 >> of course, the response to desert storm was much more positive...
[17:43] JimmyLiberato >> I wasn't thinking of our soldiers. Sorry!
[17:43] chris431 >> no offense...
[17:44] chris431 >> jimmy...yes, i'd agree, in general, if we had signs go up overnight to volunteer to go off to war, the response would be luke warm at best :)
[17:49] +aloha >> anyone think the Fed cuts rates tomorrow while the markets are closed?
[17:50] chris431 >> stock exchanges open: tomorrow, wednesday, thursday, friday or not until next week?
[17:50] chris431 >> any guesses out there?
[17:50] anthony >> My brother in law is confined to his quarters , he is tsaioned in germany
[17:50] +aloha >> they said closed tomorrow
[17:50] +aloha >> most are guessing Monday
[17:50] +rhansen >> Some pictures from my last trip to WTC. :(
[17:50] anthony >> no american military are allowed out in public
[17:50] +rhansen >> anthonypacific.com
[17:50] +rhansen >> anthonypacific.com
[17:50] +rhansen >> anthonypacific.com
[17:51] petewitt >> closed till 12:30 wed and will decide about thursday
[17:51] chris431 >> rh...i went up to the top of WTC when i was last in NY instead of the top of the Empire state building...
[17:51] +aloha >> where's the picture of the bombs, bob?
[17:51] chris431 >> aloha...i think monday is a good time...we need some delay between this news & opening the markets in this environment
[17:51] chris431 >> thanks petewitt...i didn't know that (in & out of classes)
[17:51] steveh >> I agree Chris
[17:52] anthony >> we will drop a few bombs before the mkt opens again
[17:52] petewitt >> scarry RH
[17:52] chris431 >> knife's & boxcutters? could that really be all? how many terrorists?
[17:52] +rhansen >> sad pete
[17:52] chris431 >> will we ever know?
[17:52] steveh >> Oh my god check out CBS
[17:52] +rhansen >> its been a couple years
[17:52] steveh >> They just showed a video of the second tower being hit
[17:53] chris431 >> anthony...i'm thinking the am tonight could bring some retaliation on our part...
[17:53] steveh >> it's new video it's unbelieveable
[17:53] chris431 >> even if they're wrong they're going to act swiftly....
[17:53] +aloha >> what is it, steve -- they have local news on here
[17:53] Dako >> plane virtually went though the other side
[17:54] Dako >> second tower
[17:54] steveh >> and they had a shot from the ground looking up at the tower
[17:54] chris431 >> holy shit...watching those towers collapes...
[17:54] Salogan >> steveh, from Pax tv?
[17:54] steveh >> all of the sudden you see the plane go through the building
[17:54] chris431 >> looks right out of those discovery specials on buildings that are intentially brought down...
[17:54] steveh >> It's on CBS here
[17:54] steveh >> off now
[17:54] +rhansen >> it was horrible watching it live this morning
[17:55] steveh >> horrifying
[17:55] JimmyLiberato >> Does it show the front of the impact?
[17:55] +rhansen >> then after they fell, you wished it was back to just burning:(
[17:55] steveh >> yes you see the plane literally enter the bulding and it looks like it goes all the way through
[17:55] steveh >> just horrible
[17:56] anthony >> stve that plane was like a hot knife through butter
[17:56] chris431 >> rh...wow, talk about surprises....i remember watchign the shuttle blow up live...& the start of desert storm (which took place when most people were sleeping...late nighter here)...
[17:56] steveh >> yes, unbelievable Oh my god
[17:57] Salogan >> ca guv gray davis dispatched search and rescue workers to nyc; by car?
[17:57] chris431 >> Explosions in Kabul, Afghanistan....any update
[17:57] chris431 >> is that new?
[17:57] +rhansen >> explosions in Abul Afganistan?
[17:57] nico >> there we go
[17:57] chris431 >> i'm kindda behind (been in class most of day)
[17:57] +rhansen >> who gave the order
[17:57] chris431 >> looks like were already attacking????
[17:58] +rhansen >> I guess we are going alphabetically
[17:58] petewitt >> we need to send a message terrorism will be visiosly attacked anywhere in the world
[17:58] harryj >> cnn has afgan video
[17:58] JimmyLiberato >> The exit wound did not look like the complete plane came out. So it was imbedded in the tower dripping its fuel. That could account for the implosion later thatn took it sown.
[17:58] anthony >> WE will bomb them till there is no thing left
[17:58] nico >> B
[17:58] chris431 >> [17:53] chris431 >> even if they're wrong they're going to act swiftly....
[17:58] chris431 >> 8 minutes ago
[17:58] nico >> Brasil ???
[17:58] +rhansen >> pete, they dont work with messages
[17:58] anthony >> \]Trade center designed to survive a direct hit from a 747
[17:59] anthony >> Trade center designed to survive a direct hit from a 747
[17:59] anthony >> Trade center designed to survive a direct hit from a 747
[17:59] anthony >> Trade center designed to survive a direct hit from a 747
[17:59] +rhansen >> it did
[17:59] anthony >> Trade center designed to survive a direct hit from a 747
[17:59] anthony >> Trade center designed to survive a direct hit from a 747
[17:59] +rhansen >> it did, it was the fire
[17:59] anthony >> it had to be blown up
[17:59] anthony >> from inside
[17:59] Dako >> explosions in Kabul, Afghanistan
[17:59] Dako >> per CNN
[17:59] +rhansen >> bye bye Kabul
[17:59] anthony >> we are bombing afghanistan
[17:59] harryj >> architectual guy said the construct would not be allowed today--that it is very plausable it was just the plane itself
[18:00] petewitt >> yep
[18:00] chris431 >> tony....it sure looked like 1 of those specials off of discovery channel...came straight down.... (but i'm no expert on how building naturally collapse)
[18:00] anthony >> 14:59 Air Travelers to Face More Security After Attacks
[18:00] markb >> Not 747, a 707.
[18:00] +aloha >> ben Laden's probably hiding out in some bomb shelter
[18:00] Davidh >> tony ,those models didn't account for a full load of fuel either
[18:00] +rhansen >> aloha, we will just bomb a layer at a time:)
[18:00] Davidh >> per structural engineer
[18:00] +aloha >> have they confirmed that it's the U.S. bombing Kabul?
[18:00] chris431 >> since the gulf war, we've been working on new variations of missiles that bury deep into the ground (into bunkers)....
[18:01] chris431 >> guess we'll all be seeing military technology updates in the next few days...
[18:01] nico >> well Kabul is burning
[18:01] steveh >> Wow, Can we be retailating already?
[18:01] cartage >> why Kabul?
[18:01] chris431 >> part of the problem with getting much of the higher iraqi officials was they were in undergound bunkers...
[18:01] DMG >> CNN live pictures from Kabul...
[18:01] anthony >> i dont think kabul just self ignited
[18:01] chris431 >> yes, we're attacking...
[18:01] steveh >> my god!
[18:01] Dako >> anti-aircraft missiles involved in Kabul |
