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Pastimes : SARS - what next? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Ilaine who wrote (739)9/12/2003 4:25:41 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Respond to of 1070
 
CB, I think we should have heresy trials and burning at the stake, for anyone who disagrees that the sars bug is a random experimental artifact in some people exhibiting symptoms of respiratory distress varying from noticing nothing, to being dead.

When I was a child, I could shut my eyes tightly and monsters under the bed wouldn't know I was there. Sometimes people find graveyards a bit unnerving. A good way to avoid dying, and to avoid acknowledging one's mortality, is to whistle past the graveyard and looking nonchalantly in another direction. Bolting the stable door after the horse has bolted is another few words of wisdom from ye olde days of wisdom. Not to mention the old Trojan Horse story - the latest version is the sars bug hiding inside carriers, then jumping out to slay the defenders in the dead of night in the dead of winter when they and other respiratory cofactor marauders have their day. Oh well, an ambulance at the bottom of the cliff instead of a sars bug detection with quarantine and urgent vaccination development is a time-tested approach.

What's really going on, is that this is biological warfare writ large. Those humans whose DNA and immune systems are not up to handling sars are going to be invaded by the others, via kissing, hongi, drink container sharing, spittle on food in restaurants and elsewhere [from people saying "pass the potatoes and peas" while preparing food, or talking to each other at the table while they eat], or sneezing into the ambient air [fine droplets float nicely].

Once the attacking sars-resistant people have infected the enemy, they just have to wait. Sars will mow them down in the thousands and maybe millions. Then, those whose DNA is sars resistant will go on to occupy some very nice houses with lovely views close to city centres. The sars bug will have found some friendly carriers, ready to attack any other people whose DNA falls outside acceptable limits.

That is the true biological warfare that's going on, making Saddam's puny efforts and even the USA's mighty, [but much more ethical than Saddam's because they are the good guys - giggle], biological weapons programmes of mass destruction look trivial.

Malaria has been doing a similar job and only those people with sickle cells [or good pharmaceuticals] can survive and thrive in the anopheles zones. That's a better defence against being invaded by Americans than having weapons of mass destruction. Just have better DNA. Of course, the Americans can still invade by doing some genetic engineering and killing off the anopheles too. Warfare has barely entered the biological realm.

I think globalisation and dropping populations are going to avoid the need for continued warfare. With no political will to use young men as cannon fodder and no need for liebensraum, it'll be back to chasing girls, inventing gadgets to fight the universe, playing footy and golf and trying to make a lot of money for young blokes.

So we should kill off all the biological warfare bugs which have used our need to fight for DNA primacy to gain their foothold in existence. Well, the jig is up and they are going to be got. They are an unnecessary overhead in our daily lives where peace, light, harmony, happiness, health, prosperity, fun and love will be the order of the day. Where co-operative enterprise among such blissful humans will be aimed at reversing gravitons and changing the polarity of antimatter to what does matter.

Mqurice



To: Ilaine who wrote (739)10/19/2003 9:39:57 AM
From: Henry Niman  Respond to of 1070
 
A recipe for disaster:

The Cuicui Farm Restaurant in Baiyun district became the first to get permission to serve wild animals, including crocodile, boar, turkey and civet cat.

news.xinhuanet.com

Guangzhou restaurants given go-ahead to serve civet cat
www.chinaview.cn 2003-10-19 18:39:38

GUANGZHOU, Oct. 19 (Xinhuanet) -- Amid warnings about the possible return of severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), restaurants inthe capital of south China's Guangdong Province were again allowed in mid-October to serve civet cats, the carrier of a virus similar to the SARS coronavirus.

Lian Junhao, an official in charge of wild life protection in Guangzhou, said the city began to issue licenses permitting restaurants to sell game food.

The Cuicui Farm Restaurant in Baiyun district became the first to get permission to serve wild animals, including crocodile, boar, turkey and civet cat.



To: Ilaine who wrote (739)10/26/2003 9:37:46 AM
From: Henry Niman  Respond to of 1070
 
>>Beijing, stung by worldwide criticism after it tried to cover up the initial
SARS outbreak, has ordered that all wild animals destined for dinner tables
must be reared on farms, where they can be monitored for signs of disease.

But many animals in the Baiyun market were missing limbs, clear indicators
that they were trapped in the wild. Left to bleed and confined in cages so
small and crowded that they could not move, many were badly infected and
barely alive.<<

As noted above and below, there are many civets available for testing, including those captured in the wild.

>===== Original Message From "Henry L Niman, PhD" <henry_niman@hms.harvard.edu> =====
reuters.co.uk

Bloody Animal Trade Thrives in Post-SARS China
Sun 26 October, 2003 13:50 BST