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To: Mannie who wrote (27497)	9/12/2003 9:58:18 PM
From: T L Comiskey	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

Man Who Lived in Arizona Cave Expelled Wed Sep 10, 4:13 PM ET Add U.S. National - AP to My Yahoo! FLAGSTAFF, Ariz. - A man was evicted from a cave he had lived in for 11 years after pleading guilty to using a national forest for residential purposes. Thomas J. Crawford had a bed, books and clothes arranged on hangers, along with pots and cutlery for cooking in his cave in the Coconino National Forest in northern Arizona. He was arrested Friday after a Flagstaff resident reported a suspicious camp. Crawford pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court on Monday and was sentenced to one year of probation and banned from the forest. He told Forest Service officials he would come to Flagstaff every week or so to get supplies and water. Sometimes, he would work here. Crawford, accompanied by Forest Service officials and a reporter from the Arizona Daily Sun, was allowed to remove his possessions after he was released from jail Tuesday. "As you can see, I don't have a TV or anything," he said. "I've got the sky, the wind, the rain, the canyon wrens. ... This is a beautiful mountain. You could explore it a lifetime."

To: Mannie who wrote (27497)	9/12/2003 10:54:54 PM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 89467

General Clark Sketches Plan for Presidential Run __________________________________ By ADAM NAGOURNEY The New York Times September 12, 2003 WASHINGTON — Gen. Wesley K. Clark is moving closer toward a run for the White House, having put together the frame of a campaign organization and consulted an architect of Al Gore's 2000 presidential candidacy in preparation for an announcement that could come within a week. The retired Army general, former NATO commander, said once again today that he had still not reached a final decision on becoming the 10th candidate in the Democratic field. He said many of the steps he was taking now were intended only to ensure that he was ready to go should he decide to make his first run for public office. "In the military, we do parallel planning," he told CNN. "That's the way I have always worked this. And we are going to have to make a decision soon. And if the decision is yes, then we want to be ready." But, sounding very much like a candidate, he continued: "I've gone around this country again in the last two weeks. There is a tremendous hunger for leadership out there. People are very concerned about the direction the country is headed." A senior Democratic official who has talked to General Clark about his plans described his candidacy as close to certain. And his activity of the last few days has sent a jolt of interest through Democratic political circles. General Clark would have some obvious strengths as a candidate. He is poised and accustomed to public speaking. He has also found fault with the conduct of the war in Iraq, a circumstance that would presumably allow him to crowd in on the effort by Senator John Kerry to build campaign credentials on his status as a Vietnam veteran. But General Clark would face obstacles as well. For one thing, the nine declared candidates for the Democratic nomination enjoy nearly a year's advantage in raising money and building campaign networks in early states like Iowa and New Hampshire. He would also be a first-time candidate for office, beginning his career in politics by seeking the very top rung on the ladder. Several Democrats and Republicans alike described that today as a recipe for trouble, noting the difficulties first-time candidates invariably have in trying to navigate a political race. What is more, his personal and political record is only now coming under the kind of scrutiny that will grow all the more intense if he declares. Soliciting advice on the possibility of a run, General Clark sat down the other day with Mark Fabiani, a senior adviser to Mr. Gore's campaign three years ago. "He's an intriguing figure," Mr. Fabiani said today. "You spend any time with him and you realize he is a prestigiously talented person with an extraordinary record. He would be a very potent candidate." General Clark also met with Howard Dean last week in Los Angeles, where Dr. Dean asked for his support should he not run himself. The meeting, which lasted an hour over breakfast at a hotel, was, Dr. Dean said, the fourth between them. "He's a very bright guy, and I like him a lot," Dr. Dean said. "He knows a lot about defense." nytimes.com