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Pastimes : Prophecy -- HYPE or HOPE? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (2098)	9/14/2003 2:14:26 PM
From: gregor	Respond to of 5569

>>>> was reading this article about who the Jews (according to the writer) really are and that they are not the Jews of the 12 tribes who are in Israel today. <<<<< How right you are....according to the apostle Paul the real Jews are those in Christ. If you catch his reasoning on circumcism if you are uncircumscised but in Christ then God attributes you righteousness in Christ as inclusion into the race of the Jew...while those who may biologically be Jewish if they are not in Christ then they in God's eyes are not Jewish but really gentile....just a few thoughts..might blow a few minds to those Christians who might feel being Jewish is the last thing on this earth they would want....gregor

To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (2098)	9/17/2003 6:45:11 PM
From: Cyprian	Respond to of 5569

Hard to imagine really that the whole Church is so deceived just remember, in the days of noah only eight were saved from the flood. in the time of elijah there were only 7,000 true israelites. in the time of Christ only a residue or remnant were saved. it will be no different in our time. the vast majority of prophets out there will deceive the people and turn them away from the truth. the people like hal lindsey and the left behind authors have sold scores of millions of books. they are not persecuted and hated like the examples of the prophets in the bible. hal lindsey is on his third or fourth wife, enjoying his corvette collection from the millions of books he has sold to his gullible followers. he is fat and happy, like most of these false apostles and prophets. i can assure you that the popular dispensationalist/zionist interpretation of prophecy that is carnal or worldly is not the truth. the pharisees were looking for a fleshy or carnal conquering by Jesus at his first coming, and now Christians are looking for a fleshy or carnal interpretation of israel and jews for his second coming. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. --Matthew 24:24 But Jesus, said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house.--Mark 6:4 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. --2 Corinthians 11:13-15 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. --2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; --1 Timothy 4:1-2 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. --1 John 4:1