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To: Rarebird who wrote (27619)9/14/2003 5:59:41 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 89467
 
Is that your view or an editorial on Clark...? Please cite a source and link if appropriate.



To: Rarebird who wrote (27619)9/14/2003 6:01:38 PM
From: Rarebird  Respond to of 89467
 
My VIEW.



To: Rarebird who wrote (27619)9/14/2003 6:08:19 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 89467
 
'Who is Worthy To Be President'...?

Just wondering.



To: Rarebird who wrote (27619)9/14/2003 7:19:32 PM
From: Crimson Ghost  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 89467
 
Excellent post:

I am wondering if perhaps the Bushies are being encouraged to hang tough because of the huge support being given to the dollar by Asian Central bankers -- primarily Japan and China.

When all is said and done the big rally in US financial markets could not have happened without such support. The Asians have in essence financed the US war effort. Frankly this came as a big surprise to me considering the widespread opposition to the war globally. As weak as Bush looks now politically, he would be DEAD MEAT FOR SURE without this implicit Asian support.



To: Rarebird who wrote (27619)9/15/2003 1:11:23 AM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
RareBird: You are entitled to your opinion...Yet, in your comments in this link (http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=19304314) you seemed to make a case about why we should pink slip President Bush...He has TOTALLY MISMANAGED this country's foreign affairs as well as our economic affairs...Bush has LIED to take us into an elective war...Where was 'the imminent threat' over in Iraq...? We have lost hundreds of soldiers, the iraqis have lost tens of thousands of citizens and Anti-Americanism is at an ALL-TIME high. Our nation's environmental laws are being gutted. We have no comprehensive policy to make America less dependent on Middle Eastern Oil...Bush has helped bankrupt our states and he is providing our country with a half a trillion dollar deficit...Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, and George Soros call his tax cuts irrational and irresponsible. IMHO, Bush is THE WORST president in my entire lifetime.

The title of your commentary was 'Clark is Not Worthy To Be President'...Yet, you posted VERY LITTLE about why Wesley Clark would not be a more effective leader than Mr. Bush. Do you think General Wesley Clark (a Rhodes Scholar and 4 Star General who believes in partnering with allies to solve problems) would have allowed the NeoCONS to brainwash him into an elective war with Iraq...?

If the Democrats are not smart about who they select to run against Bush then we'll have 4 more years of the corrupt and dishonest Bush / Cheney regime...Karl Rove is ruthless and will destroy most opponents.

IMO, General Clark would unite the country and help us become respected around the world again. A friend of mine is a commander in The U.S. Army's Rangers (in Iraq right now) and in a recent email he told me there is a great deal of support for General Clark throughout the Armed Forces today. It seems like a lot of veterans support Clark too...

veteransforclark2004.us

<<...As veterans we have served our country in defense of a way of life that Americans cherish. Over the past three years we have seen much of that being threatened. We have seen our economy virtually destroyed, our educational system raped along with hard fought for environmental laws being systematically repealed. We have a justice department that is ripping up our constitutional rights in the name of Homeland Security and we have a President who has wrapped himself in the flag and used the tragedy of 9/11 to implement military conquest in lieu of diplomacy and engagement. And finally we have seen our sons and daughters and brothers and sisters on active duty put in harms way, many to return in the dark, and many more returning with lifelong wounds that will require care in Veterans Hospitals around the country. Care that has been cruelly cut by this administration.



We believe that fellow retiree, General Wesley Clark has this ability to change all that. Clark is also a Southern Democrat, has an unbeatable record on national security, progressive on social issues (pro-choice, supports affirmative action), brilliant academic background and accomplished professional career. He's highly articulate, and has a telegenic persona (as evidenced by his frequent appearances as a national security consultant on CNN during the Iraqi War)...>>

veteransforclark2004.us

If you would like to add your own comment, please go to How to Help. I'm betting the General reads these comments from fellow vets.


Richard G. Burton, CPO, USN Retired

1963-1983

_________________________

We need an accomplished, knowledgeable, internationally experienced person for President and Commander-in-Chief who respects the troops with action and not just empty words or as a political backdrop. Please run for President! Thank you!



George C. Richwine

Major (Retired)

USAF

San Diego, California

1976 - 1994


_______________________________

Enough of Bush!! This county needs a true leader like Gen. Clark

Donald

Rank - E-5

USAF

Scottsdale, Az

1979 thru 1992

____________________________________


Dear General Clark,

Please consider running for President as this country sorely needs good leadership and I'm sure you could win.

Eric K. RIchardson

Capt

USAF

Scottsdale, AZ

1983-1991

__________________________________

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE MY THOUGHTS KNOWN. I WORKED FOR GENERAL CLARK WHEN HE WAS OPERATIONS COMMANDER AT THE NATIONAL TRAINING CENTER, FORT IRWIN, CA. IN 1985. HE WOULD FILL THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT WITH AN EFFICIENT AND TRUSTWORTHY ATTITUDE NOT SEEN IN MANY YEARS.



DOUGLAS M. JOHNSON

MASTER SERGEANT

U.S. ARMY

SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS

1970-1990

___________________________________

Comments - Sir, as a vet, we all need you, someone who will look out for the needs of the vets now and those to come. Someone who knows what war will do to a family.



James Dumas, SSG, Army

Braham, Mn

68-82

_______________________________

Comments - General Clark, you have lifted my spirits just by considering to run. The country really needs a great man like your self. I will volunteer, wear buttons, make phone calls and contribute money to make this work. This country is trending in the worst direction I have witnessed in my 43 years and screams for your leadership, intelligence and experience!



Steve Lumpkin

E-5, USA and USA National Guard

Higley, Arizona

84 to 91

___________________________

"Opportunities multiply as they are seized." -Sun Tzu. Let's hope General Wesley Clark seizes this opportunity.



Dennis Tabella

Specialist 4th Class

Army

Providence, Rhode Island

1965-1967


______________________________________

General, we need your knowledge and leadership now more than ever! The country is moving in the wrong direction, and our allies around the world are losing respect and lowering cooperation. Our domestic situation continues to erode. It is time for you to mount up for one last, massive effort; we will support you all the way to the White House and beyond!



Archie T. Scott

E8, Army

Colorado Springs, CO

1948-1972

________________________________________

Neither party has a candidate more needed by our country than the General. It is an awful lot to ask of a man and his family, but great men always have risen to the occasion. We need you General Clark- that much is clear, the only issue is if leading us is the calling for you. Best wishes and Godspeed whatever path you choose, and thank you for your service to us all.

James Troy
QM2/E-5 USN
Miami, Fla
1989-93

_______________________________

I met general Clark at Atlanta Harstfield International Airport, March 22, 2003. As he walked pass me I called out his name. He never hesitated but stopped and came over to me and asked my name. I begged him to run for president and told him I would be honored to serve as a volunteer in Georgia was so impressed by his ease and friendliness. I have watched him on TV every chance I have. I am convinced that he is the right person for the job and I want to help any way I can. I have several young people here who would also be honored to volunteer.



Louis Childers, Major, USAF

Stockbridge, Georgia

1970-1990


____________________________

We need a plainspoken honorable real military leader in these dangerous times who understands liberty as well as security!



Charles H Nadler

Lieutenant, USNR

Iowa City, Iowa

1962-1964


_____________________________

General Clark is an ideal candidate for President in 2004. He stands head and shoulders above the other candidates, and will be a formidable foe for "G.W." As a professional soldier and Rhodes Scholar, he brings sterling credentials to the task of leading this great nation in the trying times ahead.



Thomas B. Vaughn

Colonel, Retired, U.S. Army

McMinnville, TN

1958-1988
_________________________________

No Democrat can win in the post 9/11 era unless he has great credentials on defense. You can be for a strong defense and still believe in things like tax equity and the environment. Clark would be a great President



Mark Cohen

Capt, USAF

Nederland, Colorado

1983-1987

_____________________________

It is time for someone with brains, integrity, experience, and compassion to run for president. The current occupant of the Whitehouse has none of the above. Between Rumsfeld's foreign policy and Ashcroft's PATRIOT act, and tax cuts for the super rich, America is turning away from the country that I swore to defend with my life.



Michael Galletly, SGT, Army
Norman, OK
1988-Present


_____________________________________

Just as the numerous other military service veterans have mentioned at this site, I believe we need the credentials of a General Clark at this time in our nation's history. If he does run, we will all need to work hard to ensure his victory, because a sitting President has such an advantage, no matter what happens or who is opposing him. So, if the General does run, we will have to run with him!



Chuck Newton
E-5, "Redcatcher - 199th LIB"
US ARMY, Vietnam Service
Catonsville, Maryland
1965-1967

______________________________

As a former airborne infantryman and junior NCO I understand full well General Clark's insistence upon leadership accountability. I was taught that the mission was the highest priority, then the welfare of my troops, and lastly, my own needs. George Bush has never been held accountable for his myriad failures in life, including his failure to serve his country during war. This, I believe, is a reflection of the value system at the heart of his personal and professional history and why he became so popular so quickly with the GOP establishment. He is the son of privilege whose understanding of work is to hustle money for himself and his friends at the expense of the public. The Ballpark in Arlington, constructed with public money-sales taxes-for the private profit of a privileged few is a perfect example. Now he is doing to the people of this country, especially our young soldiers, what he has always done with impunity: screwing us all. It is time for a reckoning. I believe Wesley Clark would make a fine champion in our fight to take our country back from the greedheads who care only about themselves and their friends and damn the public and notions of responsibility to community. Run, Wesley, Run!!



Michael Welsh
(E-5), US Army
Fairbanks, Alaska
1970-72

_________________________________

I was two years behind Wes Clark at West Point. In addition to being first in his class, he was also a Cadet Regimental Commander. He was distinguished then and much more so today based upon his magnificent service record. Our country is in desperate need of a man of his integrity, intelligence, judgment and true leadership qualities, all characteristics lacking in President Bush. Run Wes run!

Bill Mc Adams, Captain, U.S. Army
Houston, Tx
1968 - 1973