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To: Kevin Rose who wrote (458824)	9/15/2003 11:02:28 AM
From: Dan B.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

NRA Teat? LOL. Not even the ACLU, which agrees. The notion that the "wackos" fired first, is simply not known, let alone a fact as you suggest. There is no disservice to dead agents to be perceived from acknowledging what is known and not known, or seeking the truth in general. Here's a fact quite inconsistent with what you think is the case. Some Davidians survived the siege, and a number of them left during the siege. This one says they were - as their leaving would indicate - free to go at any time, and that there was no suicide plan: "Koresh allowed members of the community to leave at any time, and many of them did, even during the siege. But many of us stayed, too, not because we had to, but because we wanted to." salon.com Have you nothing to say about the clear fact that ATF agents caught defenseless in the open were not fired upon? In short, there have been investigations of this event from many quarters largely because much of what you believe about the Davidians and this event has been shown not to be the case. Here's some more from the above link: "The FBI had cut off our power weeks earlier, so we had been resigned to heating the building with kerosene lamps. It was kerosene and gas from these lamps and the storage canisters, spilled over the floors as a result of collapsing walls and FBI munitions fire, that is often mistakenly taken as evidence that we doused Mount Carmel with an intent of burning it. Furthermore, the noxious CS gas that the FBI shot into Mount Carmel (almost 400 rounds were fired at us) was mixed with methylene chloride, which is flammable when mixed with air and can become explosive in confined spaces. CS gas is so nasty that the United States, along with 130 other countries, has signed the Chemical Weapons Convention banning its use in warfare. But apparently there is no prohibition against its use against American citizens. The amount of gas the FBI shot into Mount Carmel was twice the density considered life threatening to an adult and even more dangerous for little children. Ironically, one of the questions that was asked of the FBI during the congressional hearings was "Why didn't you use an anesthetic gas that would have put the people inside to sleep?" The FBI said it felt anesthetic gas would be harmful to the women and children." Kevin, the core of what is said here is confirmed in evidence, not to mention common sense. Dan B