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To: aladin who wrote (114977)9/16/2003 1:35:45 PM
From: Jacob Snyder  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
John:

We've had this discussion before, and I quoted chapter and verse, at length, with links, from the relevant treaties, showing that our Guantanamo concentration camp was in violation of treaties we have signed.

Specific treaty obligations we have violated:

1. setting up "competent tribunals" to decide who gets POW status. Article 5, Geneva Convention.
2. As Article 4(A)(3) of the Third Geneva Convention makes clear, recognition of a government is irrelevant to the determination of POW status. It accords POW status without qualification to "[m]embers of regular armed forces who profess allegiance to a government or an authority not recognized by the detaining power."
3. Article 17 of the Third Geneva Convention provides that POWs shall not be "exposed to any unpleasant or disadvantageous treatment of any kind"(my emphasis) for their refusal to provide information beyond their name, rank, serial number, and date of birth.
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<I doubt it is as clear as you think>

It is only in doubt, if you have decided ahead of time that America always wears the White Hats, and the Others always wear the Black Hats.

BTW, I'm sorry if I offended you with my "play on words". I was deliberately ambiguous: "serial killer" has one meaning as a single phrase, and a different meaning if you consider them as two separate words. Soldiers are killers, and they do kill serially, but they aren't "serial killers", in the sense of, say, McVeigh.