To: Dan B. who wrote (459320 ) 9/16/2003 12:25:33 AM From: Kevin Rose Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670 Ok, let's boil this down to its essence:IF you kill one of the officers in your above circumstances, particularly if it is KNOWN you killed the one who shot at first sight(you didn't rule that out), you most certainly will NOT and SHOULD not be found guilty of murder. If you don't agree, you really don't know anything about the law of this land, nor do you have good common sense(IMO). Well, that may be your opinion, and it may make sense to you, but it is not the law. You cannot shoot at a well-identified police officer and later claim self defense - period. You may not like this truth, and you may wish you could gun down an officer who was, in your opinion, illegally serving a warrant or threatening your life. But it just ain't so. I'm sorry to say you did not understand my point on the single officer. You might have a defense if you could prove you didn't know the shooter was an officer, or you felt that the officer was not acting in the role of a peace officer. Maybe, if you had some pretty extraordinary circumstances. I have never heard of such a case. Maybe if the shooter personally knew the officer, and there was some previous personal history... But a group of 50+ officers gone looney? Give me a break. No court in the land would believe a 'self defense' plea from a cop murderer in such a situation. Once the 'patriots' realize that they'll be gunned down in such a situation, they'll slink back into the woods as the cowards that they are. Because it is the so-called Patriots that are putting out this 'self defense' bunk. Don't let them sucker you into this lie. They're the same people that keep getting thrown into jail because they think that taxes are illegal...