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Politics : Israel to U.S. : Now Deal with Syria and Iran -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Ed Huang who wrote (1786)	9/16/2003 10:03:01 AM
From: Ed Huang	Respond to of 22250

U.N. Sets Vote on Plea to Shield Arafat; Veto Looms Tue September 16, 2003 08:19 AM ET By Irwin Arieff UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Despite a U.S. veto threat, the Security Council was poised to vote Tuesday on a resolution put forward by Arab nations demanding that Israel not harm or deport Palestinian President Yasser Arafat. The resolution drafted by Palestinian U.N. envoy Nasser al-Kidwa "demands that Israel, the occupying power, desist from any act of deportation and to cease any threat to the safety of the elected president of the Palestinian Authority." Washington, Israel's closest ally, is "not prepared to support the resolution in its present form" because it does not explicitly condemn terrorism by Palestinian militant groups and is "very lopsided" against Israel," said U.S. Ambassador John Negroponte. There was "a perfectly good peace plan already on the table" and senior officials of the United States, Russia, the European Union and the United Nations would meet later this month in New York to explore next steps on the Middle East, Negroponte told reporters. But in Paris Tuesday, France, which also has veto power on the Security Council and opposed the U.S. invasion of Iraq, signaled it would support the resolution on Arafat. French Foreign Minister spokesman Herve Ladsous said. "The draft resolution does not pose a problem for us. It suits us." The council decided late Monday to schedule a vote on the resolution at the request of Syria, which was acting on behalf of Arab and nonaligned nations. The vote was expected in midafternoon, diplomats said. The vote was set after nearly eight hours of harsh debate in the 15-nation Security Council, in which more than 40 governments condemned a decision by Israel's security cabinet to get rid of Arafat through unspecified means. LAST-MINUTE REVISIONS Syria unveiled last-minute changes in the draft text late Monday in an attempt to broaden support. It added, for example, a phrase expressing "grave concern" at the recent surge in violence, that attacks on both sides had "caused enormous suffering and many innocent victims." But diplomats said the changes were unlikely to head off a U.S. veto. While more amendments were always possible, Arab envoys said they did not intend to compromise further. Speaking at the start of the nearly eight-hour council debate, Terje Roed-Larsen, the U.N. special coordinator for the Middle East peace process, questioned the Israeli decision in principle to "remove" Arafat, whom he called the legitimate leader of the Palestinians. Arafat's forceful removal could be dangerous as well as counter-productive to peace efforts, he warned. But Israeli Ambassador Dan Gillerman dismissed Arafat as a liar and a "professional terrorist" and predicted his removal would swiftly lead to an end to the conflict. Arafat "is at the helm of those who have been supporting mega-terror attacks in the style of the bombing of the twin towers, to bring the region to the brink of catastrophe," Gillerman said, prompting Palestinian envoy al-Kidwa to walk out of the chamber. reuters.com

To: Ed Huang who wrote (1786)	9/16/2003 11:36:30 AM
From: Thomas M.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 22250

That article doesn't mention the most prominent conspiracy theory - that Saddam was involved. We are now up to 70% of Americans believing this garbage, but that doesn't seem to be enough for the NeoCons. This morning, Fox News was hyping up new fake evidence of a connection bewteen the two. Tom

To: Ed Huang who wrote (1786)	9/17/2003 3:47:33 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 22250

Re: What do big oil, the CIA, Mossad and U.S. neo-conservatives have in common? How come no conspiracy theory hints at RUSSIA as a possible accomplice/participant?!? After all, Afghanistan is a major geopolitical concern for Russia, isn't it? Re: In France, a book by Thierry Meyssan.... Meyssan debunked: Message 17926659 As I said, it's somewhat counterintuitive for most people to think of 911 as a BOTCHED cointelpro scheme devised by the FSB, Mossad and some French/Belgian second fiddles... Yet, intelligence bungles did occur more often than not: the Bay of Pigs (1961), the failed hostage rescuing in Iran (1979), the Contragate, etc... Besides, let's get real about the initial aim of 911: if from the very start, the goal was to slay thousands of innocent Americans on a single day... well, I can think of dozens of ways to achieve that --I mean, ways much easier than using airliners on suicide crashes! BTW, the mere allegation that the hijackers enrolled themselves in US flying schools is ludicrous enough to debunk the whole official 911 theory.... Then again, as I said, terrorists who want to perpetrate a mass murder could just bomb a US cruise ship --all they need is a GPS-triggered bomb: once the ship crosses the programmed latitude and longitude (say, amidst Hudson bay)... BOOom! In less than a few minutes the cruise ship and its 2,000+ passengers are sunk. The above argument leads us to assume that the 911 hijackers were probably sent on a regular hijack mission, not on a mass-murder mission. For that matter, 911 was only HALF successful: only the first two airliners reached their targets (WTC) while the other two were successfully intercepted by the USAF.... Gus