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To: LindyBill who wrote (8224)	9/16/2003 11:28:35 AM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793778

I'm sorry I can't seem to get you see the point. It's not PoMo; it's about the culture of politics. Which is one of the things this thread is about. One more shot, then I'll quit. If we all agree that these kinds of judicial decisions are an unholy mix of politics and legal analysis (and some other things that we will simply leave out of the discussion--more personal factors) but that we regret the degree to which politics plays a role. That is the perception that judges appointed by republicans vote republican or vice versa. We see it happen and we don't approve of it. We at least regret it. The Gore v Bush decision was the first decision that I can recall in which a great deal of the justification offered for it was something on the order of "what else would you expect by rep appointees?" And with no regret, no shame attached to the observation. Just anger from Gore supporters and satisfaction from Bush supporters. That's a serious step backwards, down, away from a culture in which we expect better and regret when we don't get it. I'm talking about the political culture in which we live. I'll stop with this attempt because I can't think of any other way to put it.

To: LindyBill who wrote (8224)	9/16/2003 11:31:13 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793778

Given what i consider to be Deans recent gaffes and his holier than thou Dr. Dean persona, I believe Clark's entry will be the first step in bringing him down. If one must be against the Iraqi war and current method of pacification, one must have a plan. And Clark could be that man. The others(except dean) appear feckless to all but their own true believers. Clark's patriotism is beyond reproach and he wont be flip flopping like Kerry either. Come to think of it he can neutralize Lieberman & Kerry, and then battle Dean one on one. Dean's left wing internet core would never trust a general but are not enough to win. So in the end it would be a Dean/Clark battle that Clark would win. And then we can see how Clark matches up against Bush. I think that battle will be decided on whether we have a robust recovery in the economy or not, more than on iraq. mike