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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lane3 who wrote (74915)	9/16/2003 5:10:57 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

"Standing on principle is only meaningful if doing so puts you at some risk because you are crossing a legal or societal line." Which is why individuals who stand on principle are exceptional. The fact that principles of living generally exist for all of us is nothing remarkable. To take a stand on principle, however, presumes that you are putting yourself at risk for the sake of a principle (The greater good). Freedom of conscience is a lovely notion, but essentially meaningless in practice, best I can tell." The concern is whether or not "freedom of conscience" is a protection afforded to individuals, as neocon claims.

To: Lane3 who wrote (74915)	9/16/2003 6:16:03 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Speaking of Judge Moore... Moore proposes moving Ten Commandments monument to U.S. Capitol Tuesday, September 16, 2003 (09-16) 14:51 PDT MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) -- Seeking to move his battle over religion in government to a national stage, suspended state Chief Justice Roy Moore on Tuesday offered his Ten Commandments monument to Congress for display in the U.S. Capitol. The offer came nearly three weeks after the 5,300-pound monument was removed from the rotunda of the state judicial building to comply with a federal judge's order. Moore refused to follow the order, but Alabama's eight associate justices overruled him. Since the monument's removal, Moore has criticized U.S. District Judge Myron Thompson of Montgomery and the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for ruling that the monument is an improper governmental endorsement of religion. "By its very action as the elected representatives of the American people, Congress would restore the balance of power between the branches of government and would send a message to federal courts that we, the people, have the final word on our inalienable right to acknowledge God," Moore said in a statement. Moore traveled to Washington, D.C., last week to talk with representatives and senators, said his spokeswoman Jessica Atteberry. She declined to say with whom he met. Ayesha Khan, an attorney for one of the groups that sued to have the monument removed from the judicial building, said Moore's request "shows the same level of disregard for federal taxpayers as he has shown all along for Alabama state taxpayers." Moore, who was suspended for refusing to comply with a federal court order, has declined offers to display the monument in Mississippi and North Carolina.