To: philv who wrote (19029 ) 9/16/2003 9:05:18 PM From: sea_urchin Respond to of 82179 Phil > No-one could figure out why Saddam didn't vigorously deny having WMDs, and other questions Very hard to second-guess Saddam. Sure, the "experts" didn't get it right, but they didn't care anyway, they were going into Iraq come what may. In fact, their mind was made up after 9-11, and most likely before that too. I don't think the idea of big oil reserves in Iraq is a BS story. I believe it's there but the infrastructure isn't up to much so it's hard to get it out. Anyway, the oil price chart doesn't seem too worried about Iraqi oil running out. As you see on the chart, the present price is much lower than at the end of last year despite all the fires, the water in the oil and production far less than previously.stockcharts.com [w,a]dalaynay[dj][pd200,2][ilb14!la12,26,9] I have to say, however, that Bob Shocker strikes me as one of the "doom and gloom" guys who has an agenda to pump the gold price rather than oil so I think one must take a lot of what he says with the proverbial. Apropos the WMDs, it doesn't make any difference if they are found or they are not because the "boyz" can manufacture a new reason any day of the week and the American people will accept it, simply because they don't like Saddam/Iraqis/Muslims/etc. You know, all those guys with beards and towels round their head and robes who look like Osama bin Laden. Yes, I heard about Iraqi POWs not being returned but who knows what game the US is playing with them. It seems having many POWs seem to confer legitimacy on the otherwise illegal operations. In fact, anyone the Americans doesn't like is called a "terrorist". On Guantanamo, they are holding between 500-1000 such people, allegedly Al Qaeda, many of whom were innocent bystanders, not even Afghans, who were picked up simply because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. But who gives a damn, if you look like a terrorist and smell like a terrorist, you are one. And the more you deny it, the more you are.