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To: Rick Faurot who wrote (27854)	9/16/2003 8:05:50 PM
From: Rick Faurot	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

Nice interview with Wesley Clark by Judy Woodruff on Paula Zahn's show on CNN. Clark made a very good impression IMO.

To: Rick Faurot who wrote (27854)	9/16/2003 11:53:42 PM
From: portage	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 89467

>>"I'd love to have Democrats throw us into the briar patch of Iraq and terrorism," said GOP pollster Glen Bolger.>> Well, they're about to get their wish - and get pricked and bloodied by the good General Wesley. HO HO HO ! >>Recent interviews with Republican lawmakers found considerably less angst about Iraq than about the economy>> Not much longer. The quagmire thickens. >>Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) said voters see the steady exodus of manufacturing jobs, particularly in the South, as "happening on our watch. . . . Obviously that bothers me in terms of the political outcome in '04.">> Yup. computerworld.com >>"People are hurting, and people don't see any leadership or direction." He said he cannot simply "say 'jobs, jobs, jobs' and sound like a parrot.">> He'll probably try anyway. But it didn't work too well with WMD mantras about Iraq in the end either. Nutty or savant-ish, you decide : urbansurvival.com BOT SHOCKER: IRAQ'S BIGGEST LIE WASN'T WMD'S IT WAS OIL! It finally all fits: Why the U.S. went into Iraq, why there are no WMD's being found, and what ex-President George Bush Senior may be doing in Russia - helping to negotiate oil deals and get control of gold trades as fast as the U.S. can!. Here's the BIG PICTURE low down from the web bots: The web bots have pick up enough snippets of traffic out of Europe, specifically Swiss banker types and financial type sources, that suggest that Saddam Hussein not only lied about having WMD's but that more important - to the whole world - he lied about oil reserves as well! Saddam's motivation for lying about the WMD's seems clear in retrospect: He lied about them to keep Iran at bay on his Northern Frontiers, to keep Syria at arms length, and to insure that the Israeli's were held in check and the Saudis left him alone. According to the snips, relayed to me in a no-longer-confidential backgrounder with approval to release now, the amount of oil that will ultimately be recovered from Iraq may already be on the declining side of the Hubbert peak. In other words, the 3-million BPD that was being pumped before the U.S. invasion may have been all anyone would EVER get from the fields, complete with rising salt water content and worse. This also neatly explains why the Iraqi's went into hyper-drive and invaded Kuwait which precipitated the first Iraq war: You may recall that the Kuwaitis were slant drilling (sideways drilling) across the border. If Saddam really had gobs of oil, he would not have gone ballistic, angry yes but invasion no. As the bots have it, there wasn't much left up north. The loss of any oil would have tipped off the big lie. The Bush administration appears to be about to "hit the rocks" over oil in Iraq. The danger the administration faces is that if the word leaks out of the Iraq shortfall, before Bush Sr.a nd the Mobil/Exxon and ChevronTexaco parties can buy long term oil from Russia, the whole Western derivatives pyramid will come crashing down and our markets could be toast within 2 weeks.. Our foreign correspondent, Tim B (who is in Canada) sends this: " Not only King Gyorgyi who is in Russia striking up deals! - See: themoscowtimes.com. " Moscow Times article: " The Moscow Times 9-15-3 He may be retired from public life but George Bush seems to cause a stir every time he comes to Russia. You name it and market players were buzzing Thursday about the real reasons behind the former American leader's visit -- an $18 billion play by U.S. oil giant ChevronTexaco for a blocking stake in the new Yukos-Sibneft combo? The launch of a $500 million private tie-up between Alfa Group and Pentagon-connected Carlyle Group? Divvying up the hydrocarbon resources of postwar Iraq?…. Bush last came to Moscow in June of 1998 -- just two months before the economy imploded -- for the lavish opening of international investment banking giant Goldman Sachs' office here. –END- See Pravada coverage at fin-rus.com It's the kind of situation where an ex-President/oilman on hand would be a dandy asset. Looks to us like the Russians may try to replace OPEC's power - and they'll do it for cash and loans! .......... The report is not that "Iraq has no oil"....it is that "Iraq has very significantly less oil than was ever previously believed". As a thought exercise today, here's a killer: If we really went into Iraq because of oil, what will the effect be if (or we think more likely when) the web bots prove right again - and that Iraq lying about WMD's was nothing. Theysignificantly lied about oil and the whole world - along with the Bush administration - has been suckered and they're starting to figure that out. >>The president's recent request for an additional $87 billion to fund operations in Iraq has exacerbated these concerns, several lawmakers said. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.) summoned White House communications director Dan Bartlett to the Capitol last week for help in devising a communications strategy for the spending proposal.>> Just paraphrase Bernanke - We have a thing called a printing press, and it prints money for free !!! >>Republicans are acutely aware of what happened to Bush's father, the president who won the Persian Gulf War only to lose his reelection bid to Bill Clinton as the economy sagged. They find it frustrating that some economic indicators have improved recently without an accompanying uptick in new jobs.>> And they still won't be able to stop it. They ain't seen nothing yet. This is too good - Deja vu-doo. A silver haired, charismatic Rhodes scholar from Arkansas enters the race late, and takes on a famous named family member who likes to send other peoples' kids to war for oil, wins a war and high popularity ratings, then watches them all evaporate and slinks out as a one term loser when the economy melts under his inattention and favoring of the country club class at the expense of all others. Take your pick - bush 1 or bush 2 ? (Oops, it's both). >>"It's not panic yet, but it's just short of that,">> Coming soon. >>A recent poll by David Winston for House Republicans found that 37 percent of Americans feel the country is moving in the right direction and 51 percent say it is headed in the wrong direction.>> Where'd they ever find that 37% ? >>Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite (R-Fla.) said she wants to make sure the reconstruction funds are "a loan, not a gift" to Iraq. "We didn't cause the decaying infrastructure," she said. "It was Saddam Hussein who caused the decaying infrastructure.">> That statement's almost as dopey as a jlallen post ! HO HO HO. The bush cabal - they in trouble, mon.