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To: Lane3 who wrote (74930)	9/16/2003 8:37:57 PM
From: Solon	Respond to of 82486

"his presumption that a massage was an inherently charged scenario" Sorry...how could such a person graduate?? There is no facility on the planet Earth that will graduate someone who is so sexually prejudiced? If there is such a one, I will eat my words... Then why would anyone rely on several years of training if that premise (a universally charged scenario) was to take on an a priori precedence over professionalism? I will listen; but it seems nonsensical to me--and it seems to insult all the wonderful people whom have given their time and their struggle to provide a professional service equally to all. Profiling someone before you treat them, or before you refuse treatment seems primitive and repulsive. I suppose one could say that any treatment is an "inherently charged scenario". Those words are sufficiently vague to mean absolutely nothing unless you wished to create an abstract argument--in which case we require no evidence or opinion, but may proceed to your syllogism. I will wait to be enlightened. Thus far his whole attitude has simply disgusted me. I have had many massages in my life. If ANYONE had excluded me because I was a heterosexual there would have been Hell to pay.

To: Lane3 who wrote (74930)	9/17/2003 6:00:19 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

I don’t typically resort to posting references since I like to let the argument stand on its own. However, now that we have platitudinous and demeaning comments (immature, sexually hung-up, etc.) directed at my therapist, I figured we should include some empirical support for his position. In the following you may notice that a particularly high percentage of professionals seem to be missing solon's educational lecture <sarcasm> This information applies only to professional perpetrators who are charged. It does not provide information on the general prevalence of sexually charged events, or on the prevelence of clients who are the initiators. wwlia.org ”One self-reporting survey reported that "[a]s high as 13.7 percent of male [therapists responding] and 3.1 percent of female respondents have reported engaging in some form of erotic contact with at least one patient." One survey of practicing therapists found that 70 percent were aware of at least one patient who had been sexually involved with a previous therapist. What stands out in this and the following report is that the professionals seem to have evidence of a high level of incidence, yet self-reporting does not match their other observations. This would lead me to believe that the more personal the issue the more likely individuals are to deny it is a problem… advocateweb.org PRNewswire report4 states: "According to a survey reported in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), 1O% of psychiatrists admitted to having sexual relations with their patients. However, in a survey reported by the American Journal of Ortho Psychiatry, 65% of the psychiatrists who were asked stated they knew of a colleague having or having had sexual relations with their patients or with a patient. In a July 1997 report, published by the Public Citizen Health Research Group, 28% of psychiatrists were disciplined for sex-related offenses, which is a figure far higher than any of the other medical specialty groups. A 1973 report found an incredible 51% of psychiatrists involved in sexual crimes or relations with patients. Overall, psychiatrists rise far above the national scale on sexual offenses." ramblemuse.com ”…the California Chiropractic Board states that over half of the chiropractors in practice have had either fraud or sexual misconduct complaints filed against them.” amtamassage.org ”The number of sexual misconduct complaints against health-care professionals is increasing at an alarming rate. Allegations of sexual misconduct are creating casualties on all sides: health-care professionals who lose their licenses, practices or reputations; patients and clients who are traumatized by inappropriate or abusive behavior, or behavior that they perceive as abusive; and health-care professions that are publicly humiliated or singled out for unflattering media attention. Females make up about 90 percent of the victims of sexual misconduct, and 25 percent of the alleged perpetrators.4 It should be noted, however, that many of those working in the field have speculated that male victims of professionals of either gender are underrepresented across the board because of particular male characteristics inhibiting both recognition and reporting…” … particular male characteristics inhibiting both recognition and reporting… Perhaps they have been intimidated by spurious accusations of being immature or sexually hung-up….