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To: Terry Maloney who wrote (260705)	9/17/2003 9:27:05 AM
From: Knighty Tin	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 436258

Terry, Two things I liked about Teddy: he busted the Trusts, which had Americans in their grip. An almost universally evil grip. And, the famous J.P. Morgan quote, "we bought that SOB and he didn't stay bought." Too many of our recent Presidents stay bought.

To: Terry Maloney who wrote (260705)	9/17/2003 2:19:45 PM
From: Andy Thomas	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

...this lincoln? lewrockwell.com "This is obviously why the Straussians have labored so furiously to make Abraham Lincoln even more of a cult figure. He essentially declared himself dictator, suspended habeas corpus, mass arrested thousands of political dissenters, shut down hundreds of newspapers, ordered the murder of New York City draft protesters by federal troops, deported an outspoken Democratic Party opponent, Congressman Clement L. Vallandigham of Ohio, censored all telegraph communication, nationalized the railroads, confiscated private property, rigged Northern elections, and waged war on civilians as well as combatants. The reason he gave for these shocking acts of tyranny was to destroy the secession movement and abolish the voluntary union of the founding fathers. Or, as he deceivingly put it, "to save the Union." Lincoln and the Republicans wanted to replace the American republic with an empire that would rival Great Britain’s. To accomplish this they invaded the Southern states, killing one out of every four white males of military age, and pillaged, plundered, and burned their way through the South, destroying its economy. " i guess lincoln lovers would make good neocons...