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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (115099)9/18/2003 6:38:34 AM
From: Noel de Leon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
This is what you wrote:
"The "most wanted" deck of cards, developed by an acquaintance of mine, take the precedent of Nuremburg in searching out the major facilitators and perpetrators of the Baathist oppression."

Then you wrote:
"I hardly believe that amounts to an act of "hubris" on my part for stating something that should be common sense."

There is no common sense in comparing "the "most wanted" deck of cards" to the Nuremburg trials.
Here is why there is no communality:
1) The "most wanted" deck of cards is a cheap trick of the US government to place Saddam's government(in the eyes of indiscriminate people) as being tried and convicted. They have neither been tried nor has a Nuremburg type process been set up.
2) The Nuremburg process was an attempt to:
a) Punish those responsible for history's worst act genocide. Here the process was partially successful.
b) To put on notice to the rest of the world that this kind of behaviour will not be tolerated. Here there has been less than 100% effectivity.

You wrote:
"...merit a Nuremburg style trial?"
When is this trial scheduled?

The rest of your post is obfuscation. We are talking about hubris, the comparison, which you made, of Nuremburg to the deck of cards.



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (115099)9/18/2003 10:52:38 PM
From: Bilow  Respond to of 281500
 
Hi Hawkmoon; Re: "Does it require committing genocide against 13 million people and waging a global war of aggression against all neighbors to merit a Nuremburg style trial? Saddam stated his intentions, namely to unify by force, every Arab nation in the region under his rule."

Compare and contrast:

Hawkmoon, August 21, 2003
We simply have no other choice except to quarantine the entire region and cut them off from interaction with the rest of the world until they die off to "manageable" population levels, [or] finally realize (as in Iran) that fundamentalists are just as corrupt and inept as their secular leaders. #reply-19231020

-- Carl