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To: Fred Levine who wrote (70601)	9/18/2003 9:25:20 AM
From: zonder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 70976

Show me the quote, Fred. Can you do that? What exactly has the Dalai Lama said? I gave you quotes. You are an intelligent man. You can do the same. Show me where Dalai Lama actually promotes violence, whether it be against terrorists, Chinese, or Martians. Furthermore, perhaps my figure about the 200-250,000 Kurds missing and unaccounted for was inflated by the Kurds. What number of missing and unaccounted for do you find acceptable before calling it genocide? Fred, I am seriously beginning to doubt your intellectual abilities for you insist on NOT understanding what I am saying. Kurds in certain villages were gassed in massive numbers. They were gassed because they revolted against Saddam. (If I may add, that was largely because they felt US would support them, since Bush had ASKED them to revolt against Saddam. Oops, then they were left to die.) There are two important points here (and I am not going to repeat them ever again, if you fail to understand them THIS TIME around either): (1) They were gassed because they revolted against Saddam. Not because they were Kurds. A Bloody And Cruel End To A Revolt and Not A Genocide. If the intention was to kill all Kurds (see definition of "genocide") he wouldn't stop there. Kurds make up 20% of the population in Iraq. That is 4.8 million people. Why were the rest not gassed? Try to understand this. Try really hard. (2) Whatever number of Kurds were massacred, THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO. It was not an ungoing thing. There was no urgency like in Bosnia. Do you understand this? Am I getting through? Are you going to stop reheating this stale argument quite a few people refuted numerous times on this thread? It Was A Long Time Ago. Yes, it is still horrible in our memories, no, the passage of time doesn't make it any nicer. However, There Was No Need To Invade Now.