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To: Lane3 who wrote (75027)	9/18/2003 4:27:43 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

Is not your main problem that some posters consider a man touching a woman (or vice versa) presumptively sexual contact? Whereas most people, and no doubt the people who wrote the ethics guidelines, figure that a masseuse (or masseur) touching a patient is not sexual contact. In fact they figure massaging is presumptively NOT sexual contact- and that it would only be sexual contact if it got SEXUAL, which is different from a regular massage. But perhaps I missed something.

To: Lane3 who wrote (75027)	9/18/2003 4:38:15 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Egad Karen... This is from the same article in which 70% of therapists stated that clients had reported direct sexual contact with a previous therapist....NOTE: IT ALSO STATES "Only four to eight percent of victims ever report the sexual contact." Just pretend it is the 'belief' or our hypothetical masseus as well. "Patients are harmed by sexual contact with their therapist. Studies of practicing therapists estimate that, in their observations, between eighty-seven and ninety percent of the patients who have had sexual contact with their therapist are damaged. Injuries include sexual dysfunction, anxiety disorders, psychiatric hospitalizations, increased risk of suicide, depression, dissociative behavior, internalized feelings of guilt, shame, anger, confusion, hatred, inability to trust and feelings of worthlessness. Other effects of the sexual contact included anger, shame, humiliation, depression, and anxiety. In addition, for many victims, realizing that they are harmed and that the therapist was the cause of their harm takes years. Only four to eight percent of victims ever report the sexual contact. Injuries caused patients by providers' sexual contact do not differ significantly between therapists and other health care providers: the damage resulting from either professional's breach of trust manifests itself in similar ways. In a more recent study, "two thirds of uninvolved physicians whose patients reported sexual contact with other physicians thought that such contact was 'always harmful.' wwlia.org