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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: one_less who wrote (75042)	9/18/2003 5:56:43 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Sorry but that is a tangent. I don't think so, Jewel, I think it's key to the whole thing. We have two possibilities. One is that our therapist's conscience is in line with the standard prescribed by the AMTA regarding what sexual misconduct means. In that case, he is part of the mainstream so what he is doing is not standing up against the mainstream on principle at all because there is no ethical conflict between the two. The other is that the therapist is,indeed, exerting his freedom of conscience and standing against the establishment on principle. For him to be doing that, he would have to have a different standard of conduct from theirs. You can't have it both ways. If you assert he is standing on principle, then he must be in conflict with the establishment standard. And if there's a conflict in the standard and he wants to adhere to his the standard his conscience sets for him, then he had better be able to explain his basis. So, once again, where is the harm in failing to meet his standard as opposed to the AMTA standard? I still need to fill in what comes after the "because..."

To: one_less who wrote (75042)	9/19/2003 9:59:18 AM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

"Hey, is it possible that the client just has the hots for the therapist and he hasn’t behaved inappropriately." Now you are getting a glimmer of light! <g> "Oh great!!!!! Now I see what you and X and Solon mean….They just need to git better larn’n" Yes. And better self awareness to deal with their hang-ups and scruples! In particular, thinking they have the right to control the consciences and sexual thinking of others! Their training ought to suffice for not touching their clients inappropriately, and also for dealing with a client who wishes to act in an unethical manner. As to what a client wishes to think--well that, of course, is none of the therapist's business!