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Politics : Israel to U.S. : Now Deal with Syria and Iran -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Ed Huang who wrote (1866)	9/19/2003 2:20:17 PM
From: rrufff	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 22250

You post that the first weird theory is "the more popular belief among the public right now." Do you mean by that the American public believes this. (I don't think you can find even an internet cite which claims that most Americans think this.) I think you mean to say that, among weird conspiracy theorists, this is the more popular. Actually, I kind of like Gus' approach when analyzing weird conspiracy theories. If he can prove that Russia, France and Israel can even agree on which restaurant to visit, I think he may be closer than the other conspiracy nuts.

To: Ed Huang who wrote (1866)	9/20/2003 4:23:13 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Respond to of 22250

Re: Obviously it’s not in France and Russia’s(and most other countries’) interests to see large scale US troops to be sent to the Middle East and take over the region. Hindsight makes you dance faster than the music... Where did the US intervene right after 911?? Was it in Iraq? NO, the US zeroed in on Afghanistan --Iraq wasn't even on the radar... We had to wait another 1.5 year and an escalating deterioration in Palestine to see the US put Iraq back on the front burner. After all, no later than yesterday did President Bush claim that Saddam was NOT involved in 911. Again, don't underestimate Russia's anxiety over Central Asia... Somehow both Russia and Western Europe face the same challenge: both are bordered by a Southern belt of Muslim countries --except that Europe is "protected" by the Mediterranean... There's no sea or mountainous chain to shield Russia from the Muslim creep. BTW, did you check the CIA factbook on Pakistan and Russia? Here's the latest CIA estimates: Pakistan's population (as of July 2003): 150 million vs Russia's pop of 145 million... All in all, the US intervention is a mitigated success for Pakistan and Musharraf... As I put it, it's similar to the carve-up of Poland between Hitler's Germany and Stalin's USSR in 1939: just like Hitler couldn't stand an independent Poland on Germany's doorstep, Putin couldn't contemplate an independent Afghanistan... The only difference is that the Afghan carve-up was/is mediated by the US whereas back in 1939, Poland was merely half-invaded by Germany... Come to think of it, did you know what pretext Hitler used to justify the invasion of Poland September 1st, 1939? Well, Abwehr troops were secretly airdropped in Poland and disguised as Polish soldiers... Their mission was to assault a German custom office on the Polish border. The provocation was used by Hitler to invade Poland --ring a bell? Putin used the same trick when he decided to pull the plug on Massoud.... Gus