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To: smolejv@gmx.net who wrote (38462)9/19/2003 8:11:16 PM
From: Joe S Pack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
DJ,
No. "we" don't have to be smarter than J6Ps in all areas. But have to be ahead of them and pretend that we are magicians in certain areas and make sure that they are not smart in those areas. Get a label like analysts, experts... you name it and make the noise much louder than what is propagated now. Become an amplifier!.

If they are smart they won't be in this mess that has been piled on for more than 100s of years.

Regarding their short term memory the list has no end.
Of course that's what makes all other gamers get excited including us.



To: smolejv@gmx.net who wrote (38462)9/20/2003 1:45:15 AM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 74559
 
Hello DJ, I received the following in the e-mail from a friend:

Hi Jay,

Though you may not be spending as much time lately in China, what are your thoughts/views in regards to the questions posed on China's growth outlook today, which are argued/discussed in the piece below from Joe Zhang?

Best, XYZ

----- Original Message -----
From: joe.zhang @ UBS
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 9:39 PM
Subject: Basic materials vs. China tightening

Summary:

Credit tightening will slow the economy modestly, but do not expect a collapse;
Yanzhou Coal, Chalco and Baosteel are among the most solid companies;
Stock price corrections will present buying opportunities.

Details:

* Bubbles, or the fear of bubbles? First, there was the increase in bank reserve ratio. Then, we heard warnings about bubbles in this or that sector. Is China in for a hard landing? We believe the choice for policy makers is: high growth, or very high growth.

* The government's competing needs. One week after the central bank lifted reserve ratio, the prime minister chaired a summit on a "Fast-Forward Plan" for China's rust-belt (three northeast provinces). This is in addition to the "Go-West" strategy, which is leading to very substantial infrastructure building in central China.

* Mega-trends: migration, and jobs. The need for high economic growth is made clear by political leaders in their recent speeches. China must create about 20m jobs a year to absorb new entrants to the labour market, let alone to deploy downsized SOE workers,
and migration from the countryside.

* Olympics, Treasury bonds, and NPLs. Infrastructure building for the 2008 Olympics, and the 2010 World Expo has just started. The government has vowed to use these events to stage a major urban renewal. In our view, the cancellation of the T-bond issues this week due to a rising bond yield is a warning to policy "hawks". So is the threat
of higher bank NPLs.

Inflation, wage growth, or rising asset prices? If there were many “bubbles” in the economy, why did they not show through inflation rates, and rising interest rates, wages, or asset prices (or stock indices)? At present, China does not have inflation, and interest rates are stable (except the bond yield hike caused by the lifting of bank reserve
ratio).

Moreover, the A-share stock market is going south, and few other assets command any pricing power. Finally, factory wages are falling, instead of rising. In the past three years, only civil servants and government workers have received wage growth.

Does China have economy-wide “bubbles”? Our economist, Jonathan Anderson, says no. He argues that it is too early to talk about a hard landing (although property developers, autos, steel, semis could go through some rough times ahead). Most merging (or even developed) crises come about because policymakers let things run for years. In China, where memories of the last boom/bust (1994-95) are still very vivid, we have been worried about overheating for twelve months and the authorities have been sucking out liquidity from banks for nearly that long (Note the base money decline).

Bubbles are often made by complacent authorities, but the Chinese government has not been complacent in the past year. In fact, it has done much to try to dampen growth in autos, steel, aluminium, cement, glass, and everything else.

Unlike Hong Kong’s government, there is no official intervention in China’s property market. So, Beijing’s property prices have fallen in the past year, and overheating remains isolated incidents, in our view.

Short-term vs. long-term issues.

Let us be cautious about the near-term outlook for China. Suppose the growth rates for industrial production will be halved from, say, the current 20%+ to only 10% in 2004. This would still be a very high growth rate. Even under this scenario, Chinese demand for basic materials from the rest of the world would still be strong.

Most importantly, if industrial production growth is halved, it would not only cut demand, it would reduce supplies as well. This should remove some fear among foreign companies about China’s growing exports of aluminium, steel, and other basic materials.

Constraints on the Chinese government are very real, and can potentially reverse the government’s credit tightening any time. These constraints include the need to create jobs, urbanization, the grand strategy to revitalize the “rust-belt” provinces, the infrastructure building for the Olympics/World Expo, and the “Go-West” strategy. In our recent note (1 September), “Reactions to China’s credit tightening”, we found that there is enough debate in the government about the credit tightening.

Currently, only 36% of Chinese live in cities (compared to 19% in 1979). With the recent gradual lifting of restrictions long imposed on rural residents, we expect the urbanization ratio to continue to rise. A 1-ppt increase in the ratio should translate into 13m additional urban residents, posing pressure on urban infrastructure, housing, power demand and
telecommunications. Urbanisation means additional demand for jobs, calling for higher economic growth and more accommodating macro policies. On the other hand, it puts downward pressure on wages, and neutralizes some inflationary pressure (if there is any).

Intensifying shortage of oil, gas, power, iron ore, and even coal.

On 16 July, we published a 48-page report on China’s shortage of oil, gas, power, iron ore, and even coal, entitled “China’s Energy Policy Dilemma”. We stand by its conclusions. We believe that these are long-term challenges for China, and the current shortage will only intensify in the coming years. If a modest slow down in the Chinese economy leads to the growth rates of imported basic materials to weaken from, say, 30% to 15%, it should still be high enough growth.

Nothing illustrates China’s energy shortage better than the current electricity rationing. Short-term factors aside, let us highlight one finding in our report: the impact of urbanization in the past two decades has had on power demand (see chart below).

Our chart shows, in the 13 years, China's total electricity consumption rose 7.5% CAGR (a high rate), but households’ electricity consumption rose 13.2% CAGR. In absolute terms, this represents a fivefold increase in 13 years. We believe that implications of continued urbanization will be the same for copper, aluminium, nickel and others.

Stocks: Yanzhou, Chalco, Baosteel.

We recently downgraded our ratings on Yanzhou Coal and Aluminium Corp of China to Neutral 1 and Neutral 2, respectively, after they reached our target prices. From a macro point of view, we believe it is likely that news flows will China's tightening vs. basic materials 19 September 2003 be negative on these companies in the next few months. But we believe they are among the most solid Chinese companies, and if the shares were to fall, they could potentially offer good value.

We believe the country’s power and coal shortage will continue and will probably worsen by 2005-06 when about half of large coalmines approach their retirement. The global alumina market remains quite tight as there are few new projects coming on stream in the next two years. The rising demand for aluminium by the power sector, autos, property and packaging should continue to support alumina and aluminium prices. We expect to keep our product price forecasts unchanged despite the recent changes in China’s macro policies.

On Baosteel, we have retained our Buy 2 rating, and think the recent concerns in the market are overplayed and that its mid-term outlook remains solid. Its three recent acquisitions from its parent should add impetus to growth and broaden its product offerings. We think the credit tightening will likely hurt its competitors more than hurting demand for its products.



To: smolejv@gmx.net who wrote (38462)9/20/2003 1:50:15 AM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 74559
 
Hi DJ, My response to my friend's e-mail is as follows:

Hello XYZ, I agree with everything Joe Zhang Message 19324807 put on paper, especially two of his summary points:

<<Credit tightening will slow the economy modestly, but do not expect a collapse …
Stock price corrections will present buying opportunities>>

I think China is growing fast, but there is still no bubble as in Red Chip Crisis II.

The whole world is in competitive money print-a-thon, and China can actually use the liquidity since it has a 300-year pent-up demand for infrastructure, and a need to fix the banking and social security systems. Of course, using monetary liquidity to wash away past sins will have a nasty eventual cost, but this perhaps is still better than the alternatives.

Globally, almost everyone will lose in this Professor BurnAndKaput’s game of monetary prostitution and Maestro Greensputin’s version of Last Man Financial Standing, whether via job loss, revenue decline, inflation of costs, deflation of assets, and/or grinding of currencies against currencies.

In the mean nasty time, oh, what fun :0)

I think the China growth is delicate in the interim, but OK in the longer term. I say ‘delicate’ because the interplay between fast politics and faster economy is always delicate. I note ‘OK’ because fast growth always has its accompanying risks, but, net net f*cking net, is preferable to no growth or outright decline.

The current fuss concerning the RMB/Yuan is entirely born of the American political imagination, because there is no practical exchange rate at which US manufacturing can be ‘saved’ vis-à-vis China-based Japanese/Korea/Taiwan manufacturing in those areas where the two two countries actually compete, unless we are talking about a rate that allows the Hunan peasant live in a USD 220,000 mud hut with a detached garage for two BMWs.

There is a practically inexhaustible supply of obedient, trainable and inexpensive labour in inland China, and any exchange rate float (as opposed to a fiat-determined higher peg rate) will likely see RMB decline against the USD given the scale of China’s needs to fix things, institutions, social contracts, etc.

The observable facts are, once more, exactly that, namely observable. The guy in Chicago getting paid USD 150,000 for making molds is, in a few words, getting paid too much, and the guy getting costing USD 45,000 for inspecting women’s underwear at airport in Miami is costing too much.

Downward adjustment of nominal labour compensation is nearly impossible, and so I believe the USD will have to fall eventually, and fall deep, but, in the mean nasty time, the balance sheet of J6P will be mined, tapped, dissipated, evaporated and wasted by command of Maestro Greensputin and Professor BurnAndKaput.

The US corporations are outsourcing many items from a systematically and structurally reforming China, but often through Japan/Korea/Taiwan conduits, from Japan/Korea/Taiwan/domestic Chinese-owned factories in China. These factories will gradually expand production in inland China, flowing with the currents of Chinese systemic and structural reforms and domestic economic developments/growth, whatever the exchange rate moves, and whatever else the protectionism maneuvers. It is simple economics and exercise of free will. The US companies can expand their incorporation of China as a market and as a source, or be left behind and gradually disappear altogether.

At some point, the debate in the US Congress will be ‘who lost China?’ should US-owned Chinese factories be under-represented in an inevitable post-political reformed China.

Can you imagine what would happen to Chinese equity the day they announce free mayoral elections? My bet is the event will happen within 60 months.

Any move towards US protectionism will merely speed the decline of US borrowed standard of living, fueled by folks spending money they do not have on things they do not need.

The currency/trade issues, handled wrongly, as in politically, may act as a detonator for the implosion of the US financial markets now held up only by the fictional GDP accounting and imaginary labour statistic tally, and with it, so may end the global financial system as we know it.

I believe, in China, we have a unique opportunity as speculative investors, because to a great degree we are able to believe that we can “read next decade’s Wall Street Journal” today.

I am watching a bunch of China/HK listed companies in the various services and resources sectors, because I believe (a) they will do well as China develops, (b) they will fall less in any accidents, (c) they will rise faster in any global recovery, (d) they can maintain their payouts, and/or (d) they will benefit as and when Yuan strengthens: achamchen.com

For my own portfolio achamchen.com , I had exited my China/HK shares as of two weeks ago, to side-step possible badness of SARS II, and the traditional US October Wobble.

I am OK with Joe Zhang’s selection of Yanzhou Coal as a potential buy, but not so much Chalco and BaoSteel, as these operate in more of an ‘internationalized’ market.

For 2004, I am figuring the same approach as in 2003 achamchen.com , specifically long paper/physical gold, CAD, AUD, gold/platinum, energy, and resource shares, and ‘Chinese energy resource shares’. I think we will have one truly awesome and shock inspiring bubble in Chinese equities within the next 24 months.

Lastly, in case I forgot to mention within the last 3 paragraphs, buy gold, and then borrow 70% of the value, and buy more gold, at USD 350/oz and under.

Chugs, Jay