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To: D. Long who wrote (8977)	9/23/2003 3:24:36 AM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 793717

Strong reports are going over the wire that a 9th Court decision will come in tomorrow. The sooner the better. "Best of the Web" More Mush From the Wimp Jimmy Carter, the worst Democratic president since James Buchanan, "says he sees a little of himself in insurgent Democratic White House candidate Howard Dean," the Associated Press reports. Actually, the AP is taking liberties here; Carter didn't quite say this. But here's what he did say, after CNN's Larry King asked him "Do you see a little of yourself in Howard Dean?": Well, it made me feel good about a year ago, when nobody was paying any attention to me at all, when Howard Dean called up and asked for an appointment, and he came down to Georgia and met with me, and particularly to my wife, asked a whole bunch of questions about what did you do at the beginning and how did you treat--what did you do in New Hampshire and things of that kind. So he claims, at least to me, to have had in part of his campaign technique about what worked for me in those ancient days in 1976. Carter has laid bare his agenda: He wants attention. So let's not give him any. Larry, no more interviews! Norwegian Nobel Committee, no more prizes! If we ignore him, maybe he'll go away. opinionjournal.com

To: D. Long who wrote (8977)	9/23/2003 9:04:37 PM
From: Dayuhan	Respond to of 793717

And you also said that the country would devolve into an ethnic civil war. Didn't happen. That isn’t what I said. I said that when Iraqi political parties begin to form they will probably differentiate along ethnic and sectarian lines rather than ideological lines, and that this could lead to political paralysis and possibly to ethnic breakdown. That could still happen, and it is much more likely to happen if we hand over power prematurely. In any event it is too early to tell, since political parties have not yet begun to differentiate. If a two-tier economy dominated by returning exiles and foreign investors begins to emerge, do you really think there won’t be a nationalist backlash?

To: D. Long who wrote (8977)	9/23/2003 10:27:04 PM
From: Sam	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793717

And you also said that the country would devolve into an ethnic civil war. Didn't happen. Sorry Steven, just more hand wringing. Just give it a little more time, as Cheney & friends like to say. There have already been reports of "Kurdification" in the north against the Turkamen there. Kurds taking back their land and farms lost over the years. What do you think will happen if the US gets its way with Turkey--giving them their $8b loan in return for Turkey sending 000s of troops into Iraq. What a great idea, that will settle things down. Civil war in Iraq is almost inevitable. But it won't happen immediately. Too much dust in the air, too many firefights already going on, the presence of the US inhibits it. Wait till the US leaves. After a few years (if that), the sh_t hits the fan. Unless someone unexpectedly turns up who really is a great politician/leader. I'm not holding my breath on that--the situation is probably so conflicted that not even Moses could clear it up.