To: JDN who wrote (463867 ) 9/24/2003 5:17:17 AM From: zonder Respond to of 769667 Thanks for sharing all that with us. I dont think Americans have anything against French people per se, but your leader seems to be a HORSES ASS I am not French, I don't live in France. Thus, Chirac is not my "leader". However, I can safely say, from what I can see at a distance, that the French leader has done what the vast majority of the French population wanted. Which is more than one can say about Blair and Aznar, who supported the US invasion of Iraq against explicit disagreement of their people. Chirac has a past history of corruption that I find distasteful. However, in this issue of refusing to support Iraq's invasion, I am afraid his actions and words were in line with the wishes of the French. I am not sure that he can be called "a horse's ass" of a leader based on that issue. He dreams of a France with more world power then frankly they probably deserve Possibly, although impossible to say for sure unless you sleep in the same bed with him and hear his dreams firsthand as he kisses you good morning :-) Seriously, that is the Fox TV (and possibly, the US official) line and I doubt if it is true. France did nothing more than did Russia and Germany in the past two years. Yet US media singled France out as the archenemy. I don't understand exactly why but that is what happened. Americans seem to WANT TO believe that France opposed the invasion of Iraq because they want to piss Americans off. I find that difficult to believe, especially in light of the obvious ideological differences they put forth (and so did Russia and Germany) in opposing the US invasion of Iraq - that they did not agree with superpowers bombing the hell out of countries who are not aggressing them, based on questionable and later proven to be nonexistent "proofs". while Bush dreams of world peace Really? :-)...which will only be achieved if the middle east can be changed to a democratic region. Really? :-)Why he wants to undercut Bush and America is beyond me Because Bush was aggressing another sovereign country based on lies and fabricated "evidence". And he made no secret of his intentions to continue once he was done with Iraq (along the "axis of evil"). I don't know how familiar you are with the charter of the UN (which the US cofounded and signed, and is therefore bound by, incidentally) but this kind of aggression is what the UN is founded to prevent. He ought to want to work TOGETHER as a team and quit worrying about who gets credit for what. I doubt if Chirac is worrying about "credits". He seems to be worrying about the impossible to control megapower gone trigger-happy under the control of a born-again administration with questionable motives. (Not saying this is how things are. Just saying this is what he seems to worry about). Incidentally, I just returned from a Western USA trip and found many German and quite few French tourists here in USA. That is because the German and the French don't hold the disagreement of their governments with the US against the Americans :-)