Hi el_gaviero.
((Alan Greenspan ... is an instrument of the powers that be and is only responding to pressure ... My disagreement with you is the source of the pressure.))
I look forward to sharing perspectives with you on this.
((You talk about "capitalist elites." Perhaps you should be more precise here.))
Be happy to ... as I do mean a very precise element here. Boy where to begin. Well, perhaps here:
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This is the first page of a series of 10 posts (which I referred to a few posts back) summarizing monetary antics by the central banks/merchant banking crowd from the turn of the 20th century through the 1930's (and a bit beyond that).
First the book, Tragedy and Hope, by Professor Carroll Quigley, and a bit about Professor Quigley. Tragedy and Hope has to be one of the most extraordinary books ever written (or at least that I've ever read). It is a 1,300 page tome on socio-economic-political history from the turn of the century until the early 1960's. It was written by an individual, Carroll Quigley, who had ties into the merchant banking elite in England, and was aware of the "hidden history" or "deep politics" surrounding many of the major events in the early 20th century. It was basically blacklisted when it was published, and the elite were NOT happy that Professor Quigley has published their secrets.
Regarding Profesor Quigley, the first of the ten posts provides a brief intro: "Professor Quigley is a Professor of history at the Foreign Service School of Georgetown University, and formerly taught at Princeton and Harvard. What was extraordinary about Professor Quigley is that he grew up as a boy in very privileged social circles, and was exposed, and later allowed academic access, into the deeper patterns of history of key members of the global money elite - again, the men around such interests as the Rothschilds, J.P. Morgan, the Rockefellers, the Warburgs, Kuhn, Loeb, and Company, etc."
Professor Quigley was Bill Clinton's professor and in his inauguration speech, Clinton referred to his mentor, stating "I head that call clarified by a professor I had named Carroll Quigley."
So, what's this got to do with the "capitalist elites" I had mentioned. Continuing from my introductory post on the history of merchant banking in the 20th century above: "As well, [Professor Quigley] had deep insight and access into the formation of such secretive maneuvers such as the setting up of Round Table institutions by associates of the British Imperialist and African diamond and gold magnate Cecil Rhodes. These men were extraordinary influential men in our time (i.e. the late 19th and 20 centuries), were backed significantly by British (and later global) financial interests mentioned above, and see their political expression in such bodies as the Royal Institute of Int'l Affairs in London, and the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission in the U.S. ... If one wants to peer behind the secretive history and mechanics of the global money elite, Tragedy and Hope is without peer IMO."
The next 8 posts go onto to describe the history of merchant banking and the monetary antics that led to the collapse of the gold standard and the Great Depression in the 1930's. The 10th post in the series, accessible from this link:
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... goes on to describe the founding of the Round Table groups by Cecil Rhodes in the latter part of the 19th century. Her successors of the 20th century, in the U.S. the Council of Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission, as well as the Bilderberg group, are the overt mechanisms for dialog and the achievement of political consensus amongst modern-day global elites. They are also the training grounds for emergent players in the geopolitical arena, and I can't even recall the last President of the United States - Democrat or Republican - that has not emerged from their ranks. Even academian-turned-politician Woodrow Wilson, for instance, was guided by the omni-present Colonel Edward M. House. From James Perloff's The Shadows of Power: The Council of Foreign Relations and the American Decline: "During his White House terms, Wilson was continuously guided by a front man for the international banking community, Colonel Edward M. House."
Another fellow who has written extensively about the American geopolitical elite and its murky past is ex-Standford University Professor Anthony Sutton. His books, American's Secret Establishment: An Introduction to the Order of Skull & Bones, Wall Street and the Bolshivek Revolution, and Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler, are veritable classics.
BTW, the emergence of Cecil Rhodes and his Round Table groups is does not mark the emergence of this capitalist geopolitical elite. They date at least back to the Rothschild banking consortium of the 18th and 19th century, and the European political classes backing the great joint-stock companies such as the British and Dutch East India Companies. However, the legacy appears to go back even further, to the Knights Templar affairs in banking (the founders of the political state of Prussia), and probably to time immemorial really.
It is important to understand that the most formidable weapon that this secretive capitalist elite has at its disposable is the mechanism of central banking ... or put another way, the power to control and nation's money supply. As Baron von Rothschild was once quoted as saying, and I am paraphrasing "Give me control of a nation's money supply, and I care not the politicians they elect"
A remarkable book which documents the history of the creation of the Federal Reserve Board is The Creature from Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve, by G. Edward Griffin. Griffin's book tells the fascinating story about how 7 men, met on a bitterly cold night in 1910 in a New Jersey railway station, bound for Jekyll Island, Georgia, to conspire to creating a banking cartel to protect its members from competition. This banking cartel we today call the U.S. Federal Reserve. BTW, these 7 men represented Morgan, Rockefeller, and Rothschild banking interests, and collectively represented over 1/4 of the wealth of the entire world! The men were:
1 - Neslon W. Aldrich, Republican "whip" in the Senate, Chairman of the National Monetary Commission, business associate of J.P. Morgan, father-in-law to John D. Rockefeller, Jr.;
2 - Abraham Piatt Andrew, Assistant Secretary to the Treasury;
3 - Frank A. Vanderlin, president of the National City Bank of New York, the most powerful of the banks at the time, representing William Rockefeller and the international banking house of Kuhn, Loeb, and Company;
4 - Henry P. Davidson, senior partner of the J.P. Morgan Commpany
5 - Charles D. Norton, president of J.P. Morgan's First National Bank of New York;
6 - Benjamin Strong, head of J.P. Morgan's Bankers Trust Company (and first Fed Chairman)
7 - Paul M. Warburg, a partner in Kuhn, Loeb, & Company, a representative of the Rothschild banking dynasty in England and France, and brother to Max Warburg who was the head of the Warburg banking consortium in Germany and the Netherlands.
Jim Puplava has had a couple of excellent interviews with G. Edward Griffin, the last being the interview below:
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The following Puplava interview also explores the nature of our present-day monetary system:
financialsense.com
Finally, for another history of the Federal Reserve, one very similar to Griffin's, please see the following link:
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I should also mention that while the folks comprising the capitalist geopolitical elite can be capable of the most repulsive of antics, I am also of the opinion that overt and covert bodies - such as the Council of Foreign Relations (initially U.S. and European elite dialog), the Trilateral Commission (founded in 1973 by Zbigniew Brzezinski and David Rockefeller) for European-North American-Asia elite dialog (and thus "tri-laterial), and the Bilderberg Group - are essential for the sharing of ideas, priorities, and geopolitical objectives amongst global elites. The problem is when dialog breaks down ... and of course the fact that these entities are an un-elected, un-representative, nontransparent, unaccountable, and primarily selfishly motivated.
Well, that should serve as an introductory volley into your statement "You talk about 'capitalist elites.' Perhaps you should be more precise here" It is extraordinary how hidden this global power fulcrum is from every day editorial reporting in our major media. Have you ever even HEARD of the Bilderberg group? Nuff said. :)
More to come in a follow-up post ...
Best wishes, Glenn |