To: Sully- who wrote (28716 ) 9/24/2003 2:59:22 PM From: Jim Willie CB Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 89467 pendulum swings on slant of Iraq first was all positive nonsense about democracy, oil flows, quick victory, surgical strikes, flowers the reality is more like decimated museum, religious civil war, 80% decline in oil production, bombing of oil pipelines, assassinations of clerical leaders, 3000 civilian innocent deaths, but some flowers the appeal by Bushy at the United Nations seems flawed he said "FU" to them in March, after falsifying Niger documents, ignoring CIA Intell reports he has done massive damage to NATO, as trust has eroded USA is now in over its head in Iraq we need twice the troops, but the death count and financial cost would be too great nobody is agreeing to send troops to help this is an unmitigated disaster sure, plenty of isolated instances of progress inside Iraq that cannot be disputed WHERE ARE THESE NASTY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION? WHERE IS THE WATER AND ELECTRICITY? WHY HAS OIL PRODUCTION DECLINED 80% SINCE BEFORE WAR? WHY DID THEY LIE ABOUT THE COST AND DURATION? we were told endless lies we told told bold faced false plans of troop duration "in and out in 4-6 months" what incredible bullshit anyone who believed this bullshit should consider himself or herself a fuching idiot we now face escalating federal deficits from numerous causes - broken stock bubble and business closings - stimulus (monetary and fiscal) which benefits Asia ONLY - stupid trade practices by Bush - and much more the rise in Iraqi War costs will possibly tip the balance over the edge, what experts call the "point of convexity" where additional fed govt credit demands will push interest rates higher ignoramus students of economics point to past years where higher deficits did not result in higher rates they overlook (conveniently) that deficits were not over $300 billion back then they are approaching $500B now ooops, higher longterm interest rates are coming esp since Asian currencies are now on the rise their central banks must hedge against USTBond losses or else face severe bank stress see Fractional Banking 101 for a quick course / jim