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To: FaultLine who wrote (9328)	9/24/2003 10:36:12 PM
From: JohnM	Respond to of 793838

Molly has her good moments and this one was one. I've got her new book, Bushwhacked, on the reading shelf. We'll see whether it is as good as her best columns.

To: FaultLine who wrote (9328)	9/25/2003 12:39:20 AM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 793838

California Insider A Weblog by Sacramento Bee Columnist Daniel Weintraub September 24, 2003 No clear winner I don't think anyone won this debate. Schwarzenegger seemed a little too trigger-happy with his quips and retorts, most if not all of which sounded rehearsed. Bustamante was calm and collected but also rude in a passive-aggressive kind of way. McClintock demonstrated his encyclopedic knowledge of state government, steady and stable as usual, but didn't do anything to wow you. Huffington was shrill and cock-sure while Camejo sounded like a Berkeley economic professor, confident in the justice inherent in his world view but not very realistic. Schwarzenegger said this would be the "Super Bowl" of debates, but his performance was more apt for a pre-season game. He didn't exactly embarrass himself, but neither did he score any touchdowns. It's possible his performance will play better with the casual viewer than a junkie like me. It can be dangerous to judge these affairs before seeing the clips that play on the nightly news. But to me he seemed not terribly distinguished, unable to float above the fray or take up much space in the debate. It's possible that he lost by not winning, but I don't think this debate will prove to be a turning point. The campaign continues toward the finish line pretty much as its been for several weeks: Schwarzenegger unable to shake off McClintock, consolidate the center-right vote and pull away from Bustamante. sacbee.com

To: FaultLine who wrote (9328)	9/25/2003 6:58:23 AM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 793838

Mickey is right. Arnold could only get hurt if he came off badly. Now if he will concentrate on the idea that the only good Indian is a dead Indian. :>) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- kausfiles The Debate: Arnold Fails to Blow It But did he have a Lazio Moment? By Mickey Kaus Updated Wednesday, September 24, 2003, at 9:26 PM PT Recall Debate Wrap--kf Does What It Came to Do! Format: The CW will say it was a success. I'm not so sure. Yes, Daniel Weintraub was right that it wasn't a boring format, and there was plenty of give and take. But a) voters weren't debating the questions ahead of time around water coolers, as organizers had hoped, nor were the candidate's answers unusually deep and detailed; b) Something is definitely lost when you give up the ability to ask surprise questions. (Arianna's attacks turn out to be no substitute because they, too, are predictable); c) Schwarzenegger in fact managed to skate through pre-scripted, as feared. Candidates: Arnold: Not too bullying or too vague ... but it was close! Did well enough to win. Cruz: Mr. Blobby. Condescending, accomodating, pleasant, and once again Smarter Than Expected. But does he seem like a guy who likes to say "no"? Seems more like the guy who announces arrivals and departures at an Amtrak station. (Great voice!) Arianna: If she'd been less shrill when attacking Schwarzenegger, it would have helped ... Schwarzenegger! (Success for Arianna hurts Bustamante, remember, by splitting the left vote). A useful presence who wore thin. And let me get it straight: The California economy is doing fine and it's all George Bush's fault! It's outrageous that Republicans switched positions on workers' comp over a decade--and it's outrageous for reporters to even ask why Arianna switched positions on every issue under the sun over the course of the same decade. McClintock: Solid presentation could make him national figure. (Gee, why do you think he stayed in the race?) The only candidate who even tried to fully answer immigration question. Briefly seemed to go into peaceful, mantra-chanting trance. Camejo: One-note johnny on tax distribution, but a walking case for proportional representation. slate.msn.com