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To: lurqer who wrote (28989)9/27/2003 12:16:42 AM
From: lurqer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
A little late, but ...

Maine Republican Susan Collins and Oregon Democrat Ron Wyden said adding their measure to President George W. Bush's $87 billion Iraq spending request would require agencies to notify Congress of sole source or limited bid contracts.

''The Iraqi contract process looks like Dodge City before the Marshalls showed up,'' Wyden charged at a news conference. ''It just doesn't pass the smell test to have companies not be part of the competitive bidding process.''


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famulus.msnbc.com

JMO

lurqer



To: lurqer who wrote (28989)9/27/2003 7:21:00 AM
From: Chas.  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
Putin will be kissing some serious Bush arse this weekend, France and Germany are to follow.....now that our(USA) Iraq accomplishments are defacto the Wannabes will be clamoring to get on board, on side.....

Great isn't it.....

I love it.....

Regards



To: lurqer who wrote (28989)9/27/2003 4:51:04 PM
From: T L Comiskey  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
My guess is there is a bunch of 'loose change'
exchanging hands..
the tar baby has grown up and BushCo...
needs a helping hand, if the poles are correct
(What will be the price of..(Saving)Face..?)
T

Meanwhile..
Prevention is the Best medicine

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U.S. Troops Find Missiles Near Saddam's Hometown
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TIKRIT, Iraq (Reuters) - U.S. troops said they had found surface-to-air missiles and hundreds of other weapons including plastic explosives buried in an orchard near Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s hometown on Saturday.



A U.S. military spokesman described the haul as one of the most significant weapons seizures of recent weeks and a sign of how Saddam loyalists were still equipped to pose a threat to U.S. forces.

He said 23 SA-7 surface-to-air missiles were found as well as 1,000 pounds of plastic explosives, 500 hand grenades, dozens of mortar bombs and hundreds of detonators which could be used to set off car bombs or other explosions.

Also discovered were rocket-propelled grenades similar to those used on Saturday in an attack on a Baghdad hotel housing officials of Iraq (news - web sites)'s U.S.-led administration.

"This was a significant find but is just one of the numerous weapons caches we know exist around the country," the spokesman told reporters.

He said the owner of the orchard, about 10 miles outside Tikrit, was closely linked to Saddam's ousted regime.

Troops were led to the cache by an informant. They had raided the orchard three days before but found only one weapon on that occasion, the spokesman said.



To: lurqer who wrote (28989)9/27/2003 9:15:59 PM
From: T L Comiskey  Respond to of 89467
 
George ain't ..eggs-actly 'Lovin It'.....

" Putin also declined to pledge any postwar help for Iraq. "

Bush, Putin seek a show of unity



Leaders press Iran, N. Korea to curb nuclear arms plans
Sept. 27 -- President Bush and Russian President Vladimir Putin displayed an easy familiarity during a news conference at Camp David Saturday. NBC’s Carl Rochelle reports.



ASSOCIATED PRESS
CAMP DAVID, Maryland, Sept. 27 — President Bush and Russian President Vladimir Putin on Saturday urged Iran and North Korea to abandon suspected nuclear-weapons programs, glossing over divisions about how to deal with both countries. Putin also declined to pledge any postwar help for Iraq.














































PUTIN SAID ANY Russian contribution to Iraq’s reconstruction would depend on a U.N. resolution sought by the United States to encourage other countries to offer money and peacekeeping troops. Along with France and Germany, Russia is demanding a greater role for the United Nations in Iraq and a speedier timetable for ending the U.S. occupation.

MSNBC's Moran: Putin gets driver's seat
Despite their differences, Bush and Putin stressed their personal friendship and the great strides in U.S.-Russian relations since the Cold War.
“I like him. He’s a good fellow to spend quality time with,” Bush said, standing in the warm sun of Camp David after two days of talks.
The invitation to the presidential retreat in Maryland’s Catoctin Mountains was intended to underscore their close ties, after meetings earlier during Bush’s administration at the White House and the president’s ranch in Texas.

LUCRATIVE RUSSIA-IRAN TIES
Their show of harmony notwithstanding, Putin gave no indication he was willing to pull back from an $800 million deal to build a power plant in southern Iran. Bush has pressed Putin for two years to abandon the project, and the International Atomic Energy Agency said last week it had found new evidence that Iran is enriching uranium.
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Putin said Russia would “give a clear but respectful signal to Iran about the necessity to continue and expand its cooperation” with international inspectors.
He said Russia “has no desire and no plans to contribute in any way to the development of weapons of mass destruction, either in Iran or any other country in the world.”
Emphasizing agreement, Bush said, “We share a goal and that is to make sure Iran doesn’t have a nuclear weapon, or a nuclear weapons program.”
Putin made no concessions on Iran in private, either, a senior administration official told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity. But the official said the Russians’ willingness to nudge Iran toward IAEA cooperation is part of a pattern of small steps toward progress.
Bush said the United States and Russia jointly urged North Korea to “completely, verifiably and irreversibly end its nuclear programs.” But, again, there was disagreement.
NBC's Maceda: The other side of Putin
Putin said that in exchange for North Korea’s dismantling of its nuclear program, the United States should give the communist country a guarantee of its security. Bush has been unwilling to make that concession to North Korea, a country he has branded as part of “an axis of evil” along with Iran and Iraq when it was ruled by Saddam Hussein.

CLEAR BREAK ON IRAQ
Bush and Putin did not mask their differences on Iraq, and the Russian leader hedged any offer of postwar help on the outcome of the U.N. resolution being negotiated.
“We had differences over Iraq in terms of the practical way of how to resolve this problem,” Putin said. “But we had understanding on the essence of the problem.”
As for reconstruction help, Putin said, “The degree and the extent and the level of Russian participation ... will be determined after we see the resolution.”





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Bush declared himself pleased with cooperation from other countries, even though he came away empty-handed from two days of diplomatic talks last week in New York.
“I recognize that some countries are inhibited from participation because of the lack of a U.N. resolution,” Bush said.
The United States hopes to assemble an international division of 10,000 to 15,000 peacekeeping troops from India, Pakistan, Turkey, South Korea and other countries.
Bush said that he and Putin had “some very frank discussions about Iraq.” The Russian president strongly opposed the war and has said that the turbulent aftermath proves he was right.
“I understood his position,” Bush said. “He understood mine. Because we’ve got a trustworthy relationship, we’re able to move beyond any disagreement over a single issue.”
In his weekly radio address Saturday, Bush urged all countries to help Iraq.
“In the struggle between terrorist killers and peaceful nations, there is no neutral ground,” the president said. “All nations must join in confronting this threat where it arises, before the terrorists can inflict even greater harm and suffering.”

SUPPORT ON CHECHNYA
Bush gave Putin support on his crackdown in Chechnya, a sensitive issue for the Russia because of international criticism about alleged human rights violations.
Russia and the United States have been targets of terrorists, Bush said.
“No cause justifies terror,” Bush added. “Terrorists must be opposed wherever they spread chaos and destruction, including Chechnya.” But Bush went on to say, “A lasting solution to that conflict will require an end to terror, respect for human rights and a political settlement that leads to free and fair elections.”


WashPost: Russia's ebbing democracy
Bush also defended tough U.S. visa policies that Putin complained were impeding legitimate travel by journalists, business people, artists and educators.
“Our intention is not to slow down visits,” Bush said. “Our intention is to make sure that visitors who come are reasonable people” and not terrorists. He said the system was still be worked out.