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To: abstract who wrote (59330)	9/27/2003 4:12:30 PM
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"I suspect we are both guilty of tainting the information we perceive with the "insight" we bring to it." I never said I was perfect. That's why I let time & events unfold in forming/changing my POV. I refuse to cling to an inflexible POV..... regardless of the facts. I let the facts speak for themselves & form my POV around them. "I was quite displeased to see a dissident point of view criticized as being unpatriotic." If that happened here then it was what was said, not because of a dissenting POV. That's a fact. I believe that many folks, media outlets & politicians have been quite unpatriotic since 9/11. Again, this is part of my near complete disdain of the liberal left - blatant lies & deceit - fear mongering - gross exaggerations & NEVER, NEVER retracting their obvious lies & deceptions after they had been irrefutably exposed by time & events - instead they relentlessly move on to the next round of lies & deceit, even if it brings harm to America, our troops, etc. IMO, it's one thing to express genuine concern & doubts but later admit many of those concerns were shown to be unnecessary as time & events unfolded. It's all together another thing to relentlessly continue their fear mongering, supporting Saddam, the Talaban, France, Germany & their lies (supporting anybody but the USA). They continue their outright lies & deceit in the face of irrefutable fact when we are in a global war on terrorism & the conflicts in Afghanistan & Iraq. Far to many folks on SI, in the media & left wing politicians are guilty of this numerous times IMO. I don't recall any of them ever admitting they were wrong about anything ever. Senator Kerry is a prime example of being unpatriotic - his verbal assault on President Bush's foreign policies the war when we were fighting in Iraq were despicable & quite unpatriotic (his regime change speech). The fact that he personally said he would tone down his attacks when the shooting started (only one week earlier) made this unpatriotic assault even more disgusting. Add to it that he NEVER, NEVER admitted he was wrong (he repeatedly defended it) is so typical of the liberal left. And the fact that NO ONE from the liberal left spoke out against this horrific act of unpatriotic, despicable behavior is quite telling of the policies & practices of the liberal left. It's typically hypocritical to blatantly hold these double standards. That was but one of numerous examples of unpatriotic behavior by the liberal left that turned my stomach. "I think there is nothing more American than the expression of contrary points of view." I couldn't agree more. Too bad that the liberal left can't stick to facts & reality when doing so. That is quite un- American. Scare tactics, fear mongering, gross exaggerations, lies & deceit made up the basis of what many called their dissenting POV. To me that's not a dissenting POV. That's propaganda. It's giving aid & comfort to the enemy. It's friggin' unpatriotic IMO. And no amount of facts or reality changed these relentless assaults one iota. They NEVER, NEVER admitted when they were wrong or when they were irrefutably caught in their lies. Instead they relentlessly continued with even more lies & deceit. It's that & their inflexible POV after time & events unfold clearly showing they were horrifically wrong that has me completely turned off to the tripe they spew. It's the personal attacks they instigate, the name calling & the elitist attitude they constantly practice while falsely accusing other of this very thing, regardless of the facts. I hope I never cling to a philosophy so blindly & relentlessly. "I will limit myself (for now) to what I think are the big issues. 1. I do not like seeing the United States act as the world's policeman. I don't think it is our responsibility. 2. I do not like seeing the United States act unilaterally. I think it is a bad tactic and undermines potentially good results." 1. Well the UN & NATO don't exactly have a track record of success. If the US didn't drag them kicking & screaming into doing the right thing, they'd still be debating what to do in North Korea from the 1950's. The fact that the world changed dramatically on 9/11 left the US with the option of getting the UN to act immediately & with force if necessary, or gather a coalition of the willing to do so. President Bush did precisely what his #1 responsibility was - protect our national security. He tried to get the UN to act appropriately. They didn't, so he got a coalition of the willing. I don't want my country's fate in the hands of the UN or NATO with all the serious problems they have. Their abysmal track record in protecting recognized, democratic sovereign nations from rouge nations & terrorists, maintaining peace & protecting human rights is well established. 2. The US didn't act unilaterally. They had support of the UN in Afghanistan. The US had 12 long years of Iraq's violations of UN sanctions & resolution 1441 that warned of serious consequences (ergo support, regardless of France, Germany & Russia's tactics to try to keep their dirty secret deals with Iraq secret). Plus we a coalition of the willing when they took out Saddam's regime. Your concerns here are completely unfounded, but they are among the laundry list of typical unrelenting false assertions made by the liberal left against this Administration. Spin away if you wish. This is reality.