To: TigerPaw who wrote (29027 ) 9/27/2003 11:21:37 PM From: Lizzie Tudor Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467 I know we aren't the cheapest, believe me, I am working in a department that has an edict (from the top, yawn) that is a nine to one ratio india to US workers for internally developed software. The issue is the functional design again and who writes it, and how close that person (func design person) needs to work with the architect. A lot of projects don't have good func designs and that works ok in the US, you can put a baseline technical team in touch with the pure business and deliver. Not with an offshore team. AT Kearney and Accenture say offshore is 100% compatible with a US workforce. This is only true in the context of Accenture, because they always overmanaged even US teams. If you hire accenture you get a program manager, a project manager, business analysts, basically a lot of overhead and finally R&D which is offshore. This level of US based overhead is not the reality in corp IT depts here. That is the situation my management is in, they bought into the AT Kearney blather and now we have 200 people in Bangalore and like 12 in house and we are dying, the management model doesn't work. Cut the Bangalore team by 40% and add 20 people here and we can do it but if you really add up the costs fully loaded I'm not sure its worth the effort to offshore this extensively. Call centers and support and other modular depts are ok but I think the pendulum has swung a little far. Also the indian workers are 30-40% US salaries so not free. There have been many cases recently where I would have taken one local person over two offshore, my business is not all about bodies. This reality is just hitting the CEOs though.