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Politics : Israel to U.S. : Now Deal with Syria and Iran -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Ed Huang who wrote (2037)	9/28/2003 11:03:54 PM
From: rrufff	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 22250

US looking for ways to pay for the Iraqi liberation is not stealing their oil. Use of possible Israeli port of Haifa or a pipeline to Jordan or Israel is not stealing their oil. Do you object to the transportation of Iraqi oil to/through Turkey?

To: Ed Huang who wrote (2037)	9/28/2003 11:21:50 PM
From: BubbaFred	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 22250

Very excellent sly play on words, and very sly psychology behind it. To the uninformed and the unsuspecting, the words sound so good, ethical and righteous. What is left out is the management fees and cost of operation and maintenance costs. When one is the ultimate owner and the only enforcer, there is no need for disclosure of the books and no accountability to anyone. It is off limits to the specially set up Iraqi council government. This tactic is very typical and the scam practice is perfected. Like the "GOING OUT OF BUSINESS SALE" that used to last for years. Or, the "Clearance Sale" that used to last forever with alternating and endless supply of same items. None of them was intended as distress sale, but rather at very nice healthy margins. The slogans were used to attract the unsuspecting to make the shoppers think they get great bargains. Who used to run this type of businesses, and where it used to be so prevalent? Such easy pickings, these American public. And the the sellers, so what? It works and it's smart business tactic.

To: Ed Huang who wrote (2037)	10/1/2003 12:13:58 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 22250

Ed, Those articles are bogus. They don't offer anyone a clue. The abandoned pipeline was 8" diameter. The proposed replacement is 42" in diameter. The amount of oil to be shipped to Haifa is to be increased by a factor of at least 50. Area of Pipeline: 8" x 3.14 = 25 sq. in. 42" x 3.14 = 132 sq. in. Pressure allowable: 1940 standards: 10 psi 2004 standards: 140 psi Velocity = ?? Quantity shipped = ?? ******* I don't have access to the salient pressure/diameter calculations. I'd be appreciative of any who do. But the evidence is overwhelming. Western interests want to pump Iraq dry as soon as possible. And do it via Haifa.